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Re: Joining the military [Re: ] #610383 12/21/11 09:37 PM
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The contract sounds like it would clear away some of the fears about joining I had.


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Re: Joining the military [Re: gun dog] #610384 12/21/11 09:50 PM
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You always sign a contract when you enlist. But if you sign an "open" contract, they will place you int he job field that is the most needy with little regard for your wishes. I wouldn't sign and open contract, but some do.

Re: Joining the military [Re: ] #610385 12/21/11 10:53 PM
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Definitely DO NOT sign an open contract. Get something guaranteed . That's what I did and I got exactly what I signed the contract for.


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Re: Joining the military [Re: Spider-Pig] #610386 12/22/11 01:29 AM
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I will throw out the lowly vote for looking into the Guard. I could be misunderstanding you, but it sounds like you are NOT looking to do a career stint as a .mil. If that is the case, the Guard will give you tons of opportunity, the ability to live where you want (all things being equal of course) and will do you very well when it comes to tuition assistance. Not sure where you live, but out here in God's country (Colorado) Guard members get a sweet deal for state schools, and here (God's country again) we have state gunsmithing schools. Do the .mil thing, get paid to get edge-u-ma-cated, and better the future prospects for yourself and that of your family. Also, the Guard (can't speak to how this works in active duty) will let you cross train and pick a diversified work experience should you want to and there is a need. This can be a huge bonus in a competitive civilian work environment. Furthermore, you'll likely get a security clearance (and one that remains active) and that can be a big asset for a number of civilian job opportunities (even for silly civilian engineers/architects <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> ) Just food for thought.

Re: Joining the military [Re: damon] #610387 12/22/11 01:39 AM
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Damon makes a good point. Reserves/guard is not a bad deal.

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I would also ask the Gunsmithing School counselors what it really takes to succeed in your profession.
I've made a few "poor" choices in my life and a few good ones. Find a successful Gunsmith and see what they are doing and what it takes to do what they do.

Re: Joining the military [Re: Massive Metal] #610389 12/22/11 04:35 AM
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I would also ask the Gunsmithing School counselors what it really takes to succeed in your profession.
I've made a few "poor" choices in my life and a few good ones. Find a successful Gunsmith and see what they are doing and what it takes to do what they do.

Yet, another solid point. Brain pick your local gun dealers/smiths.

Re: Joining the military [Re: ] #610390 12/22/11 04:57 AM
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Gunsmithing for a living is going involve a lot more than working on AR15's and M9's so is this really going to "prepare" you for your desired career?

Sorry Arch, but this is laughable. <--my opinion. sorry

Ask anyone who has worked in a miltary armory which is the most common weapon they work on, and the M4/16 will be the answer. However, there are about 50 models in the average armory. They range from the M9 to the 50 Cal sniper and machine gun/M2 to the latest XM-25.

I think you misunderstood my point. I was saying that in the military you're going to be working predominately on the M16 family of weapons.

In the civilian world you're not.

When I was working in a gun shop 90% of our "projects" were related to what the owner called "Fudd Guns" (hunting weapons) and predominately gas operated self loading shotguns.

My point in a nut shell:

Military = Mostly M16
Civilian = Everything Else


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Re: Joining the military [Re: Endeavour Morse] #610391 12/22/11 05:06 AM
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Good point.

I hope I didn't come off as offensive to you as I highly respect you (honestly).

But, I guaranty a military armorer works on shotguns more often than a civilian one. I think you are making judgments of a military job without actually experiencing it.

We don't carry too many bolt actions, but we do, and we use a ton of shotguns. A Marine in the 21 field (not sure what the other services call it) has to know the uncommon weapons just as well as the common ones.

Name a type of weapon and I bet we use it. Armorers deal with them all.

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I think you are making judgments of a military job without actually experiencing it.

That's a true statement ^^^

I assumed with the M16 being issued in some form continuously from 1963 to today (48 years of being the standard issue weapon for the Air Force, Army and Marines) it would be the predominate system for armors to work on.


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Re: Joining the military [Re: Endeavour Morse] #610393 12/22/11 05:13 AM
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You know what they say happens when you ASSuME something.


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Re: Joining the military [Re: Endeavour Morse] #610394 12/22/11 05:15 AM
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It is. But to perform your job proficiently, you would fail if you could only fix/modify one weapon. A mechanic can't fix every car if all he knew how to fix was a gas tank.

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