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Ohio school shooting, #629285 02/27/12 08:01 PM
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I just heard about the school shooting in Ohio. I know lot of people here live in Ohio including our Busse family, so I hope all of you and your families are safe.


From what I can gather its about three hours away from the Busse compound.
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UPDATE 2/27/2012 12:08 p.m.: One student injured in the Ohio school shooting Monday morning has died, WKYC reports.

UPDATE 2/27/2012 11:20 a.m.: The FBI is reporting that five students were injured in an Ohio school shooting Monday, according to the Associated Press. All have been taken to area hospitals.

PREVIOUSLY:

At least three students have been injured in a shooting Monday morning at Chardon High School in northeast Ohio, according to local reports.

The school was placed on lockdown after the incident reportedly occurred at 7:30 a.m., just before classes started. Students were soon evacuated from the school and transported to a nearby elementary school to be released to parents, WOIO reports. Other schools in the area are also on lockdown.

Chardon Police remain on the scene as the district is in "crisis mode," Chardon Community Coordinator Ellen Ondrey told Fox 8 News.

Police scanner traffic is reporting three victims critical and one stable, according to WYTV. Several of the wounded have been airlifted by medical helicopter, WKYC reports.
One student gunman has been taken into custody and weapons have been recovered. WYTV reports that the suspect was located by following his tracks in the snow. Initial reports suspected a second shooter, but the FBI believes there was only one gunman who was likely a male student, according to WKYC.

A parent told The Plain Dealer that the shooting occurred while students were eating breakfast in the cafeteria. A boy "stood up and started shooting, and then it was chaos," parent Jeannette Roth said. A teacher saw the shooting occur and chased the suspect, who still escaped.

About 1,100 students attend Chardon High, and all classes in the Chardon school district have been canceled for the day.

Check back for updates, pending a Board of Education press conference, and watch WKYC's live report above.

The shooting was reported around 7:30 a.m. at the 1,100-student Chardon High School about 30 miles east of Cleveland, said Civil Deputy Erin Knife of the Geauga County Sheriff's Office.

Television news footage showed anxious parents escorting children away from a school building, and ambulances could be seen outside.

A spokeswoman for Cleveland's MetroHealth System said a medical helicopter was dispatched to the high school. Angela Kiska, of the Cleveland Clinic, told WJW-TV in Cleveland that two of the victims were transported to Hillcrest Hospital.

Bob Herp, a Chardon trauma nurse, was at a command scene at a local Wal-Mart store where he told WEWS-TV helicopters were on the ground.

Chardon Local Schools Community Coordinator Ellen Ondrey told WJW that police remained at the scene and that the school was still on lockdown late Monday morning.

All classes in the district were cancelled.

Students at the high school and middle school had already started their day when the shooting happened, but bus runs for elementary school kids were stopped, Ondrey said.

Parents of high school students were told to go to Maple Elementary School to pick up their children.

Chardon is a city of about 5,100 residents.

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Re: Ohio school shooting, [Re: Sar5] #629286 02/27/12 08:43 PM
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Very sad indeed. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />


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please keep the victims and thier family of in your prayers.


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Yes, VERY sad news. Perhaps failure on the part of parent or parents and violence on TV and Video games. I don't know, just guessing and that is the same as assuming.

Thoughts and prayers going out to all those injured and not, and all their families.


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Where have We, as parents and as a nation gone wrong? What has happened to us that we have allowed our children to become so violent, so ACCUSTOMED to this violence that it means nothing to them. Where people will riot over a stupid pair of shoes, and kill for them!

Parents have failed the children, Schools have failed the children, Society has failed the children. We have failed them by NOT instilling in them the values that our forefathers had, and instilled in THEIR children, expecting it to be handed down from generation to generation.

All is not right with the country and by our silence, by our not wanting to "Cause problems", we have let our beloved nation join the cesspool that we call the world.

This latest shooting is tragic, any sane person would agree. But we need to start with discipline in our children to get it to stop.

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Prayers to the victims, to their families, to the grandparents and sister of the shooter, and to the shooter himself. This doesn't happen in isolation. Something went wrong with this child. He will need to bear the weight of what he did for the rest of his life. His family will also bear that weight, as, of course, will the victims and their families. How do you even begin to make sense of this.


(Reuters) - A student gunman opened fire with a handgun in an Ohio high school cafeteria on Monday, fatally wounding one boy and injuring four other students before he was arrested after a teacher chased him from the building, police said.

The injured students were rushed to area hospitals where 16-year-old Daniel Parmertor, a high school junior who attended a nearby vocational school where he studied computer science, died at MetroHealth System in Cleveland.

Parmertor had been waiting in the school cafeteria for a bus when the gunman opened fire in an attack that Education Secretary Arne Duncan called an "unspeakable tragedy."

"Danny was a bright young boy who had a bright future ahead of him," Parmertor's family said in a statement provided by MetroHealth. "The family is torn by this loss. We ask that you respect our privacy during this difficult time."

The shooting near Cleveland was the worst at a U.S. high school in 11 months and the worst in Ohio since late 2007, according to the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence.

Two of the four other victims were in critical condition at MetroHealth, according to Chardon Police Chief Tim McKenna. A MetroHealth spokeswoman declined to provide updates on the two students' condition on Monday evening.

"We are respecting the privacy of the families," Sharon Mortland said. "We have no further information at this time."

A 17-year-old boy, meanwhile, was in serious condition and an 18-year-old girl was stable at Hillcrest Hospital in suburban Cleveland, a spokeswoman there said.

Geauga Sheriff's department officials said the suspect was caught about half an hour after the shooting with the help of citizens and a police dog.

Police have not formally identified the gunman, who is a juvenile, but students, parents of students and local media named him as T.J. Lane. By early afternoon, police and FBI had surrounded a brown house in a rural, wooded area of Chardon identified in public records as belonging to Thomas Lane.

The shooting took place at around 7:30 a.m. local time as students were in the cafeteria studying and eating breakfast. A Chardon High School student, Danielle Samples, 16, who was in the cafeteria at the time, told Reuters she heard a series of "pops" and someone yelled to run down the hallway into a classroom. While Samples was in the hall, she heard another round of pops.

"It hasn't hit me yet," Samples said of the experience. "It's very surreal."

She said the shooter was not a Chardon student but a student at Lake Academy in Willoughby, which serves at-risk students. He was at Chardon's cafeteria waiting for a bus. She said the student lived with his grandparents and sister.

SUSPECTED SHOOTER DESCRIBED AS QUIET

Chardon freshman Sofia Larkins, 14, was sitting with Lane's sister when the shooting began. "She didn't know anything," Larkins said. "She was surprised as anyone."

The two girls fled to a teachers' lounge when the shooting erupted, and began hearing talk that T.J. was the shooter, Larkins said. His sister began crying. Larkins said school officials came to the lounge and took his sister away for questioning.

Fellow students described T.J. Lane as "quiet."

Emergency vehicles rushed to the high school after the shooting, where solemn-looking students streamed from the building to meet parents. The entire school district was closed for the day and will be closed on Tuesday.

"We want them to stay home and spend some time reflecting on family," an emotional Joseph Bergant, superintendent of Chardon schools, told a news conference. He urged parents to hug and kiss their children. He praised the actions of teachers, who had been through disaster training and acted quickly to protect the students.

The teacher who chased the gunman from the school was not identified. Larkins said one teacher who was in the cafeteria at the time was a football coach, Frank Hall, who could not immediately be reached for comment.

Chardon, the seat of Geauga County, is a semi-rural, fairly well-educated and affluent town about 35 miles from Cleveland with a population of about 5,000, according to the U.S. Census and Chardon's web site. The town contains neatly restored brick buildings downtown with quaint offices and shops. Its web site describes it as the center of the state's maple syrup industry.

The school that some of the injured students attended is Auburn Career Academy, a vocational school with 700 juniors and seniors taken from 11 surrounding school districts including Chardon, Auburn superintendent Maggie Lynch said. They were waiting in the cafeteria for the bus.

The mother of a student in Chardon, who asked not to be identified, said her son knew the accused gunman.

"My son's reaction was 'this doesn't surprise me.' T.J. (Lane) was a nice sweet kid who was misunderstood and he probably cracked from being different," she said.

The deadliest school shooting in the United States was the 2007 massacre at Virginia Tech University that left 33 people dead. The worst high school shooting was the 1999 attack at Columbine High School in Colorado that killed 12 students and a teacher.

(Reporting by Kim Palmer, Andrew Stern, Ellen Wulfhorst and James B. Kelleher; Writing by Mary Wisniewski; Editing by Greg McCune and Cynthia Johnston)


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This has been all over the news. Very, very sad!


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Once again, WHAT is going on with our kids? I pray that someone can figure it out quickly so measures can be started to prevent tragedies like this in the future.

Our thoughts and prayers goes out to ALL the victims, both physically and mentally. And yes, I guess you could even say the shooter is a victim.


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Totally messed up. Kid must have had a really damaged home life. When I was in high school (I'm 50) this kind of thing never happened. A generation later and it's becoming common place.

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While school mass murders seem to be more frequent now, it's not a new occurrence. The worst US school mass murder was in 1927!

http://listverse.com/2008/01/01/top-10-worst-school-massacres/

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May 18, 1927 : In the deadliest mass school murder in United States history, former school board member Andrew Kehoe set off three bombs in Bath Township, Michigan killing 45 people and wounding 58. Kehoe killed himself and the superintendent by blowing up his own vehicle.


There have been many others over the years, but there are more people now and the notoriety given to the perpetrators in the media seems to have pushed some of the killers over the edge.

Personally, I think many of them get the idea from previous events and would never have thought to do these atrocious acts on their own.


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What’s going on with our kids?

Maybe it's from living a city life? By city life I mean living a non-hunting, non-fishing, anonymous lifestyle.

I grew up in a large family and lived in farm country when everyone hunted and fished. And we all knew hard work and what that meat looks like before you saw it in those pretty white Styrofoam trays in the grocery store.

We also know that death was final and it isn't pretty. Animals don't fall off 100 foot cliffs and walk away; no did anyone survive a stick of dynamite blowing up in their hand. We all knew when things died they stayed dead, unless your where Jesus. That guns where to be respected but ultimately they were mere tools that could be used to put food on the table and pigeons out of the barn. ....and that you really could lose an eye from a BB gun. Where I grew up every kid over 10 owned a pocket knife, and a full rifle rack in the school parking lot was normal. We knew all of our neighbors and most of their relatives too.

Or maybe its kids growing up being told it's not ever their fault. The blame should, can, and will always be put somewhere or on someone else. God help us if we do anything to hurt the child’s precious self image. Pass/Fail instead of A's and F's, not keeping score at athletic events, everyone gets a trophy, it's your right to get everything you want without working for it, and becoming numb to the suffering of others (TV, movies, video games, anonymous web).
Or maybe it’s something as simple as not sitting down at table as a family. When did we lose the will to listen to each other and laugh/cry/share life’s events as a family around an evening meal? Has life become so politically correct, so hectic, so loud, and moving so fast that we no longer can afford to slow down and admire a fine knife, a straight shooting rifle, a good cigar, or even enjoy nature in its unspoiled glory?

In my opinion, that’s what’s happened to our kids.


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Good writeup Mastiff.


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