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Re: EDCing a 311 in a city. [Re: Rasmus] #685915 08/10/12 02:15 PM
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Rasmus, how are knife laws in Denmark? I just realized, I don't know and started wondering is all...

The knife law in DK is terrible! Only slipjoint-knives under 7 are allowed to be carried as edc.
And we have a postalservice which refuses to deliver knives over 12 cm. Therefore, it is pretty difficult to mailorder knives over 12 cm.

On top of that, the lawenforcement has a hard time interpreting the law, which has led to paperboys being prosecuted for carrying a paper cutter. So people in DK are spooked by anything kniferelated. Hence the postalservice's refusal to deliver knives.

How about in Holland?

Here it is legal to import, own and use (within rather strict bounds) anything that could be described as a fixed blade. Delivery services have no trouble with it either. BUT: it is illegal to be 'threatening', wether that be by knife, club or toy smurf. And of course open carrying a knife is pretty threatening in itself to some people and since it's always 'the other guy' deciding if it is threatening to him, de facto it is illegal to carry a knife outside your own premises. And even on your own land, if it's threatening to somebody... Assisted or non friction/free falling folders are illegal as such. Folders smaller than 'the cross-width of you palm' (3-3.5" maybe?)are considered non-threatening per se and thus allowed to be carried even conceiled (but off course, if 'the other guy' says so...).

It is the reason for some strange situations: old ladies getting hefty fines for driving a car with a kitchen knife, just earned with frequent consumer points in the supermarket, openly on the passenger seat. A sheathed kitchen knife mind you. The argument being, that while sheathed, the blade was ready for use against the public and therefore automatically threatening.


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Re: EDCing a 311 in a city. [Re: yesh] #685916 08/10/12 02:35 PM
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As far as this topic goes, it isn't the law that matters so much.....

It the jury of 12 that will be judging whether you deserve to be locked up or not.

I agree with the intent of your message...but disagree on what matters.

For me (personally)...I err on the side of "perception" and "boots on the ground interpretation" of the law. Reason? If a cop decides your in the gray area...you'll get to spend WAY TOO MUCH MONEY just to defend your rights in front of your 12 peers. Best guess is my 401k would be empty pretty quick....


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Re: EDCing a 311 in a city. [Re: Ishikawa] #685917 08/10/12 02:44 PM
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As far as this topic goes, it isn't the law that matters so much.....

It the jury of 12 that will be judging whether you deserve to be locked up or not.

I agree with the intent of your message...but disagree on what matters.

For me (personally)...I err on the side of "perception" and "boots on the ground interpretation" of the law. Reason? If a cop decides your in the gray area...you'll get to spend WAY TOO MUCH MONEY just to defend your rights in front of your 12 peers. Best guess is my 401k would be empty pretty quick....

I forgot to mention this part of the equation, you will be drained financially if this happens. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif" alt="" />


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Re: EDCing a 311 in a city. [Re: yesh] #685918 08/10/12 03:00 PM
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Sad that WE have let the laws come to this. Yes it's true that most of the time we don't even know they are considering a knife or gun law. BUT when they do we should DEMAND they either revoke it or rewrite it so it does not infringe on our rights.


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Re: EDCing a 311 in a city. [Re: Bear1] #685919 08/10/12 04:12 PM
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that is sad. it is heading that way in the USA


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Re: EDCing a 311 in a city. [Re: gun dog] #685920 08/10/12 04:19 PM
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offtopic but how did the merrells hold up

They held up great! She really likes them. We took them for a 2 day jungle hike in Thailand, and had no problems at all. The terrain was tough, steep and slippery, but the Merrels gave great footing.


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Re: EDCing a 311 in a city. [Re: Rasmus] #685921 08/10/12 04:21 PM
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glad to hear that


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Re: EDCing a 311 in a city. [Re: gun dog] #685922 08/10/12 04:34 PM
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Here in DK knifenuts like me, are a minority, more minor than all else that is a minority, so the politicians legislate all they want. If I were to try and stand up and make a difference, I would be considered a complete nutcase.

Politics based on fear, rarely end up targeting those the politicians are affraid of.


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Re: EDCing a 311 in a city. [Re: Rasmus] #685923 08/10/12 05:08 PM
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gun and knife nuts are really common here. but the politicians and media try to make us look like the nutcases. but we do have groups like the NRA that are fighting for our freedom.


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Re: EDCing a 311 in a city. [Re: gun dog] #685924 08/10/12 05:19 PM
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gun and knife nuts are really common here. but the politicians and media try to make us look like the nutcases. but we do have groups like the NRA that are fighting for our freedom.

Just look at the phrases....gun nut.....knife nut!!!

Those phrases are used as tools for anti gun and knife policies.... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/barf.gif" alt="" />


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yep....


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Re: EDCing a 311 in a city. [Re: gun dog] #685926 08/10/12 05:35 PM
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