belt sander sharpening
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01/11/13 12:15 AM
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OK guys I got a one inch belt sander for doing my sheaths but I know it is also useful for sharpening so let's make a good database of techniques and supplies.
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Re: belt sander sharpening
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01/11/13 01:20 AM
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I'll add that harbor freight has one right now with the 2 year no questions asked replacement.
Greaser, I changed your post, Dan might have considered it deal spotting. This should keep us all out of trouble.
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Re: belt sander sharpening
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01/11/13 01:30 AM
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DeAdEyE956
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I get my belts from lee valley. Practice on cheap blades. Harbor frieght is good. Got a Kalamazoo but waiting on belts. I like the km though. Sharpened an axe with good results with the belt it came with.
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Re: belt sander sharpening
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01/11/13 02:04 AM
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I followed these directions copied directly from Ban Tang's knifemaker forum on blade forum.
• How do you sharpen a Stupid Sharp knife? How do I maintain my steel or carbidized Ti BT knives?
Quote Originally Posted by Ban Sharpening a Stupid Sharp knife (steel):
Things you will need: Belt Grinder 120 grit belt 220 grit belt Coarse Scotchbrite belt Fine Scothbrite belt Leather Belt and Green Compound.
Sharpen a V edge using the 120 grit belt, then follow it with a 220 grit belt. You want to knock off a majority of the shoulder.
Use the coarse scotchbrite to continue knocking off the shoulder and slowly form the convex secondary bevel with alternating strokes. A coarse scotchbrite is good for this because it cuts fairly decently and - because it’s fairly unstructured - it naturally convexes the edge. Try doing a true V edge with one and you will see that it has the tendency to round the shoulder edges. Keep at it with the coarse scotchbrite until you are satisfied with the convex geometry. The geometry will vary from large knives to smaller knives, dependent on application, as discussed previously.
NOTE: Be careful when doing this part of the sharpening because a decent amount of heat can be generated. Start off slow to get the hang of it and have some water handy to cool the blade. Dip the blade often to ensure you don’t overheat it. This is the slowest and also the most important step.
Follow the above process with the fine scotchbrite belt.
Finally, strop the hell out of it with the green compound saturated leather belt, and it should pop hair like nobody's business. I start off using a good amount of pressure to do the majority of the polishing. Then I slowly finesse the alternating strokes towards the end to prevent myself from increasing the angle and rolling over the edge.
On average, it takes me 20-30mins to sharpen a new knife this way. But once it’s been set... I usually just have to hit it with the leather belt for a few seconds to retouch the blade.
You can also simply strop the blade by hand if you don’t have a belt grinder. There are a ton of resources here at Bladeforums and around the web regarding sharpening of a convex blade, but feel free to contact me if you’d like some pointers. At some point, I hope to have one of the members here do a sharpening-by-hand video with one of my knives.
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Re: belt sander sharpening
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01/11/13 02:22 AM
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Awesome luck that's what I was looking for, what angle do you approximately hold the blade at?
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Re: belt sander sharpening
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01/11/13 02:42 AM
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Follow that post from luck,and you got it!!!
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Re: belt sander sharpening
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01/11/13 02:44 AM
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luck
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I made a small angle guide at first, but scrapped it when I got the hang of it, now I just eyeball, keeping a consistent angle on each side. Depending on knife, it looks to be 12-20 degrees, usually right around 15 most of the time
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Re: belt sander sharpening
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01/11/13 03:13 AM
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I made a small angle guide at first, but scrapped it when I got the hang of it, now I just eyeball, keeping a consistent angle on each side. Depending on knife, it looks to be 12-20 degrees, usually right around 15 most of the time Never measured an angle in my life, and folks like my edges. You look at the blade and go with what feels right. At least, that works for me.
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Re: belt sander sharpening
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01/11/13 03:59 AM
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Cool 15 or so it is then lol. HD on my cheapo knives I used to just eyeball them on a wet stone but then I didn't really care, but after discovering the lansky I try and be as precise as I can be. I guess with the belt sander I'll just have to go back to eyeballing them again but its nice to have a starting point to work off of.
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Re: belt sander sharpening
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01/11/13 05:39 AM
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Greaser don't forget light pressure, patience and pics My sus I did. Edge isn't quite there but a big improvement
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Re: belt sander sharpening
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01/11/13 06:04 AM
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That looks great, nice job.
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Re: belt sander sharpening
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01/11/13 06:25 AM
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Where do you guys get your scotch bright belts at I don't see them at lee valley.
JYD#176 "dein Gott schickte mich zu zerstören" "Sic semper evello mortem Tyrannis" "Sometimes the chance of a zombie outbreak is the only reason I need to make many of my life's Decisions." General Delivery
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