Well, after TWO DAYS, I think I finally got my Satin yes Dan, SATIN 621 and brown sheath ordered. It seems as if I have a different password for ordering than I do for signing onto the site. Frustration level reached 210 degrees before finally dropping to normal levels once I figured out I did have a different password for ordering. Now to just see if it worked. I did get a confirmation e-mail, so we will see.