Dave - the "Messer Hund" joke was in reference to when Jerry Busse inducted Jerry "Messer Hund" into the trough. Jerry Busse said "I think that means bratwurst or something like that". <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />