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Re: Scrap Yard Gun Talk [Re: Spider-Pig] #1012593 10/22/14 11:37 AM
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Also, concerning serial numbers. The serial number on a stripped lower does not indicate if it is a pistol or a rifle. When you buy it from a FFL, the ATF form 4473 that you fill out will list the lower as "other" because it is not a rifle or a pistol but is a receiver.


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Re: Scrap Yard Gun Talk [Re: Spider-Pig] #1012594 10/22/14 12:05 PM
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Ray pretty much nailed it. The only thing I have heard differently is that once you convert a pistol to a rifle it is always a rifle and if you have a barrel shorter than 16 inches overall it is now an SBR.

But an unfinished lower is neither a rifle or a pistol. I wouldn't own an upper than is shorter than rifle length without a pistol lower. That's a recipe for disaster.

When you purchase a lower from an FFL you can have them mark it as a pistol if you choose.

I wished I had known that when I bought my lower. I paid way too much to have a pistol marked lower. I could have saved about 100 bucks. On the lower.

Heck right now they have bushy lowers for under 50 bucks. If my go to FFL hadn't gone under I would buy a couple more.


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Re: Scrap Yard Gun Talk [Re: Spider-Pig] #1012595 10/22/14 12:46 PM
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I found documentation on the ATF website that said that if the lower was built originally as a pistol, it can be changed back and forth from pistol to rifle and back again. I am confused by what you said about having the FFL mark the lower as a pistol if you choose. Did you mean engraving "pistol" on the lower or checking off the pistol box on the ATF form 4473?


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Re: Scrap Yard Gun Talk [Re: Spider-Pig] #1012596 10/22/14 01:21 PM
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I am talking about the form 4473. Some people are more comfortable by having that done but I'm not sure it makes a difference.

Do you have a link or PDF from the ATF document? Everything I have ever seen says once its a rifle its always a rifle. They ahd some problems with pistols sold with longer barrels and stocks claiming that once the stock was put on it was now a rifle and if it was coverts back to a pistol it was now considered an SBR.

It would be great if I was wrong. The make or used to some great conversion carbine kits for 1911's and Glocks.


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Re: Scrap Yard Gun Talk [Re: Spider-Pig] #1012606 10/22/14 03:17 PM
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Some clarification


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Re: Scrap Yard Gun Talk [Re: Spider-Pig] #1012609 10/22/14 04:05 PM
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My newest setup for the piston AR.
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Re: Scrap Yard Gun Talk [Re: Spider-Pig] #1012612 10/22/14 04:29 PM
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What front sight is that.


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Re: Scrap Yard Gun Talk [Re: Spider-Pig] #1012620 10/22/14 06:22 PM
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Here is the link to ATF concerning pistols.

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Re: Scrap Yard Gun Talk [Re: Spider-Pig] #1012621 10/22/14 06:32 PM
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They are 45 deg off set buis GD. Here is a link, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GZEdtJ_LgA

Mine are a different brand but he does a good explanation of why to use them.



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Thanks Ray good to see it in writing I will be printing this off and saving a copy of it.


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"dein Gott schickte mich zu zerstören"
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Re: Scrap Yard Gun Talk [Re: Spider-Pig] #1012623 10/22/14 06:34 PM
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This afternoons project a little fiddly with the hand fitting but isn't everything gun smithing. LOL

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"dein Gott schickte mich zu zerstören"
"Sic semper evello mortem Tyrannis"
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Re: Scrap Yard Gun Talk [Re: Spider-Pig] #1012626 10/22/14 06:41 PM
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Looking Good Greaser!


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