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Re: The Field Gear / Battle Rattle Thread [Re: Endeavour Morse] #1040155 04/19/16 09:35 PM
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I think multiple patterns are warranted in my AO.


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Re: The Field Gear / Battle Rattle Thread [Re: Endeavour Morse] #1040157 04/19/16 09:50 PM
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I agree, but the army loves multicam. I can't have that stuff in my house.


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Re: The Field Gear / Battle Rattle Thread [Re: Endeavour Morse] #1040158 04/19/16 09:53 PM
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I liked it before that.


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Re: The Field Gear / Battle Rattle Thread [Re: Endeavour Morse] #1040159 04/19/16 09:55 PM
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For the record, I don't like MARPAT either. I dislike it slightly less than I do ACU.


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Re: The Field Gear / Battle Rattle Thread [Re: Endeavour Morse] #1040160 04/19/16 09:58 PM
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Hahahahaha


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Re: The Field Gear / Battle Rattle Thread [Re: Endeavour Morse] #1040166 04/20/16 06:31 AM
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Just cause you're a Jarhead you think all the other services are Pansies! I'll have you know we're not! I (Air Force Retiree) had to suffer through a week long stay in the hospital in SEVERE pain!
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Re: The Field Gear / Battle Rattle Thread [Re: Endeavour Morse] #1040168 04/20/16 09:39 AM
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I remember that! They were talking about lowering the flag to half staff to honor your bravery. I heard that you went back to work after only a two week recovery time. The courage and dedication that must take is amazing.


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Did you get any disability for that?


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Re: The Field Gear / Battle Rattle Thread [Re: Endeavour Morse] #1040171 04/20/16 09:58 AM
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During one of those times where people were shooting at each other (Dessert Storm?). My unit was forward deployed to Germany. When we arrived, I found the air conditioning was broken in my hotel room. Luckily, the concierge found a fan for me to use for the two days it took to fix the A/C.

But even with the fan, the ice in my iced tea melted at an alarming rate. I even sweated a few times! I just attributed it to the horrors of war and suffered in silence.


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Re: The Field Gear / Battle Rattle Thread [Re: Endeavour Morse] #1040172 04/20/16 10:04 AM
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I think trying to force one pattern of camo is unrealistic unless you're in Antarctica or CERTAIN PARTS of a desert (even deserts have varying vegetation). WW2 Germany had "reversible" camo wherein one side was Spring/Summer and the other Fall/Winter. They also issued one side white / one side camo.

I don't necessary advocate reversible, but multiple patterns is required for most of us. In my area we experience:

Winters = brown trees, dead brown brush, green conifers.
Spring = lush green trees, brush, and multicolored flowering trees.
Summer = dark green trees, matured dark brush.
Autumn = multicolored deciduous leaves, dying brush, green conifers.

All seasons have agricultural fields (corn and soybean)...so mud, bright green starts, dark green plants, and brown died in place plants.

To accommodate the varying environment I have to have multiple options.

Woodland is extremely effective in summer, and effective in spring.
Multicam is extremely effective in late fall, and effective in winter.
White is extremely effective in...snow.

If I wanted to have five patterns this is what I'd have...

Snow = Whites / Splinter Whites
Winter = ATACs
Spring = CADPAT Danish M84 or ATACS FG
Summer = Woodland
Fall = Multicam

This would be a monumental logistical issue, and would cost a fortune. That's why I've settled on Multicam and Woodland. They're readily available, and 100% functional.


EDIT: I wrote CADPAT, but meant Dane 84.


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Re: The Field Gear / Battle Rattle Thread [Re: Endeavour Morse] #1040173 04/20/16 10:10 AM
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Danish M/84 is a neat BRIGHT SPRING GREEN pattern. I had bought some CADPAT to test hence my comment above. The Danish M84 was much more effective, and insanely hard to get.


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Re: The Field Gear / Battle Rattle Thread [Re: Endeavour Morse] #1040174 04/20/16 10:11 AM
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CADPAT is a micro pattern, which generally speaking I've found to be effective at close range, but dismal at distance.

M84 is a macro pattern, and more effective.


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I am now a fictional British television police officer (currently a Detective Sgt) at Thames Valley Station. My governor is Detective Inspector Fred Thursday and itís 1969.





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