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Re: One Bad Chopper #143693 10/28/07 06:54 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,943 Spring, TX KnifeGuy Junk Yard Dog
KnifeGuy Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,943 Spring, TX	Quote Quote Somehow things are working out a little backwards for me here???? .... You're not alone in feeling that way, KnifeGuy. Fit and finish seem to have taken on a lot more importance than they used to have. I can remember a time when Dan was called "Dan the Hack" because his fit and finish were secondary concerns. He only cared about blade performance and little else. . . His philosophy was simple, if it didn’t affect the performance of the knife, he didn’t bother spending any time on it. Source: http://scrapyardknives.com/intro.htm Where did "Dan the Hack" go? And will he ever again build those incredible "maximum performance to price ratio" knives that attracted me here in the first place? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> Unfortunately, I am not surprised about increases in pricing. Demand is high and supply is terribly low. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> Simple economics. However, it seems to me that they could ultimately make more profits with higher volume (more availability). And it seems they should be capable of higher volume. Higher volume would help us ALL! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> . JYD #39 I prefer "SATIN" blades!!!

Re: One Bad Chopper [Re: pitman] #143694 10/28/07 07:01 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,943 Spring, TX KnifeGuy Junk Yard Dog
KnifeGuy Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,943 Spring, TX	Quote Quote I remember when the DF was released too. I remember watching everybody frantically putting in their orders and being excited about a big bad knife coming their way. But, I also remember (at the time) the DFLE was to be released shortly after and I remember "knowing" I would prefer a DFLE and would probably just pass on the CG DF so I could get the DFLE <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> ...... That was a long time ago..... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> I have been waiting.... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> and waiting.... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> and waiting.... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/sad.gif" alt="" /> and waiting.... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> and now I am getting concerned about whether it is really coming or not and what the actual price may be. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/paperbag.gif" alt="" /> Conversely, when the DM was released, there was no indicated reason to believe an LE version was coming. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> When the S6 and DF were released, it was known (???????? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />) that that there would be a LE version. So, I purchased the DM and spent a lot of time and effort stripping and polishing mine to make it satin. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> Then the DMLE came. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> I don't really have much need or justification for the DMLE now that I have stripped mine. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif" alt="" /> I don't have much regret for purchasing the DM and stripping it myself. I actually like the uniqueness of the super thick blade of the CG DM. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> *** And at $60.00 less than the LE, the CG DM was a much better deal IMO. I am sorry to see that either prices are going up dramatically or that LE versions are just generally being given a high premium. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> I am very glad that Dan has released a few LE models - I guess....... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> And I "guess" I hope the trend to release LE versions of each model continues.... although based on $60.00 premiums for LE's - I am not so sure. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> But, I guess I wish they would be released together so I would know what my options are. I know I am sorry to see the LE prices are so much more than the CG versions. Unfortunately for me, if $60.00 is the standard increase for CG to LE on a 5" knife and possibly more for larger knives, then I may have to reconsider future LE purchases. I may have to start looking for a good deal on a DF on the secondary market - probably a user at a user price. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banghead.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/paperbag.gif" alt="" /> Somehow things are working out a little backwards for me here???? .... . I think your kinda missin the point bro, the main thing about the LE is the Flat grind which will make it a much better cutter than the Sabre version the coating or lack of etc makes little difference to me as that wears off anyway !!! I don't feel I am missing any point from my perspective. I agree the DMLE should be much better suited for cutting than the CG DM. But, from my perspective, the original CG DM was unique by being chunky and tough. The DMLE is NOT very unique and there are better cutting knives to be had (IMO). The RMD being one of them. I already purchased three RMD's as I wasn't expecting a DMLE. And I may have to sell one. But, I am sure two is plenty. I have already stripped and convexed one of my RMD's. I feel the RMD is an outstanding knife! And stripped and convexed as mine is, I am very pleased with it and doubt the DMLE would/could compete with my already customized RMD (for me!). . Last edited by KnifeGuy; 10/28/07 07:09 PM.

Re: One Bad Chopper [Re: KnifeGuy] #143695 10/28/07 07:04 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,943 Spring, TX KnifeGuy Junk Yard Dog
KnifeGuy Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,943 Spring, TX	... somehow double-posted (????). Last edited by KnifeGuy; 10/28/07 07:06 PM. JYD #39 I prefer "SATIN" blades!!!

Re: One Bad Chopper [Re: KnifeGuy] #143696 10/28/07 07:13 PM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,869 NJ eatingmuchface Junk Yard Dog
eatingmuchface Junk Yard Dog Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,869 NJ	yeah. i liked the whole really thick sabre ground door breaching blade thing. its what dan meant it to be, and sure many of use dont really need to breach doors everyday, but it was cool and it served its purposes well, and people complained it didn't cut that well. (well its meant for prying so its not going to the the best cutter) and dan made the grind different maybe to stop from everyone complaining. idk. I feel i feel like dan could have left it how it was, but was maybe (idk though) pressured into making the DMLE because of all the talk of it not being able to cut that well. maybe if everyone would have thought a little and didn't complain that it didn't chop good or something you would all have DFLE's right now. i mean its meant to pry, so you pry with it. you wouldn't buy a dogfather and say it doesn't do fine work good enough, and you dont buy a dumpster mutt and say it doesn't cut good enough. yeah so i just think that dan felt he should try to make it to fit your standards instead of what he intended it to do. but i havn't been around for as long as you guys so you may think different. JYD number 52.

Re: One Bad Chopper [Re: eatingmuchface] #143697 10/28/07 09:13 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 298 Dark Norseman OP Mongrel
OP Dark Norseman Mongrel Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 298	I love LEs. But the ones I make. Where I have to beat the coating off of a CG verion first. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Oh, and I like the thicker saber grind, near the spine. Do LEs tend to bind less when chopping?

Re: One Bad Chopper [Re: Dark Norseman] #143698 10/29/07 08:34 AM
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 3,051 Washington, DC Wiggitty Junk Yard Dog
Wiggitty Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 3,051 Washington, DC	a chopweiler with G10 would be great. Alcohol Tobacco & Firearms should be a convenience store, not a Government Agency. JYD.45

Re: One Bad Chopper [Re: Wiggitty] #143699 10/29/07 08:07 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 298 Dark Norseman OP Mongrel
OP Dark Norseman Mongrel Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 298	Quote a chopweiler with G10 would be great. +1 <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> ........

Re: One Bad Chopper [Re: Dark Norseman] #143700 10/29/07 11:13 PM
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 3,051 Washington, DC Wiggitty Junk Yard Dog
Wiggitty Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 3,051 Washington, DC	i wonder if i can order a chopweiler with no handles, and have them ship it to dan for some res c grips? Alcohol Tobacco & Firearms should be a convenience store, not a Government Agency. JYD.45

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