Re: Hawaii Bill Would Ban Folders
[Re: Bushman5]
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02/13/09 09:00 PM
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Bushman, your choices of tourist destination are already rather limited aren't they? Can't carry your knives by air, which means you can only go to places you can reach by land or sea. Which are loads slower than air. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Hawaii Bill Would Ban Folders
[Re: Momaw]
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02/14/09 03:14 AM
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true, but you get my point i'm sure <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Hawaii Bill Would Ban Folders
[Re: Bushman5]
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03/21/09 03:29 AM
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Jim
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I ran across a somewhat related bit of news (in that it's about dumb knife laws) on the BladeForums ROSArms subforum. They have been talking about marketing some Russian-made Khuks, but say they cannot be shipped through Germany: Guys! I promised you some Khukries after IWA show BUT they just got new law in Germany - anything with blade longer then 120mm (4 3/4 in) cannot be transported in or out. So I will have to order Khukuries from Russia directly. I'm working on it right now. ROSArms makes some very nice knives, but I'm a bit dubious about their Khuks because they're stainless. My belief is that most stainless steels are unacceptably brittle for blades that take the impact a khuk does. Also, one of the things that I like about their knives is that they're lighter than most US knives of the same size, but with a chopper, some weight isn't a bad thing. I'm interested in getting one, but I want hear how their first wave of khuks perform and hold up before taking the plunge. Aside from the merits of this particular knife, it's hard to believe that Germany has such a restrictive law. I know that there are European customers who sometimes post, do we have any folks from Germany who can comment on whether he's correct about that law?
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Re: Hawaii Bill Would Ban Folders
[Re: Jim]
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03/22/09 01:46 AM
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Just like with guns...If you outlaw knives, only outlaws will have them and that puts all of us law abiding citizens at a big disadvantage. This bill, just like the anti-gun legislation, is pure garbage! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banghead.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Hawaii Bill Would Ban Folders
[Re: Andy Wayne]
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03/23/09 10:29 PM
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Bors
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Well.....he is voted in and perhaps he needs to be voted out..... After all he obviously doesn't have his constituents best interest in mind by even considering such nonsense......
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Do you need one, of course you do it's a knife and you like knives.....
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Re: Hawaii Bill Would Ban Folders
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03/23/09 10:55 PM
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It sounds like he didn't even read the bill. He was only a mechanism for one of his constituents who wrote the bill. What a dweeb!
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Re: Hawaii Bill Would Ban Folders
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03/24/09 06:04 AM
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without trying to get political {not allowed here} this whole [censored] world has slipped too far left and i feel its an absolute crisis.
this is off topic a bit but......
there is a guy on the ranger knives forum who is having justin make him a knife with no edge or point.essentially its just a "whacker",might as well save the money and buy some piping.
the reason is because he lives in NEW ZEALAND and over there if an intruder breaks into your house in the middle of the night and you harm him you go to jail so he wants his custom piece to be politically correct.
the reason for me telling this story is that lately i have realized that this 'leftist" ideology is friggin world wide amongst civilized nations.
i'm moving to the moon.
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Re: Hawaii Bill Would Ban Folders
[Re: Bors]
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03/24/09 07:15 AM
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Well.....he is voted in and perhaps he needs to be voted out..... After all he obviously doesn't have his constituents best interest in mind by even considering such nonsense...... i used to live in that guys district and my parents still do. he is just as snotpig said just a mechanism...as i said in a previous post most of the people in his district are elderly and have absolutely nothing better to do than to think up crazy things. i dont know if its connected but there have been more and more burglaries in his district. i do not know if people had knives or if its even knife related. but i do know that the only people in that area who would draft something like this up would be someone who doesnt have a job and has all day to call and write and see to it that it gets pushed into a bill(the elderly). and really the district he is in is a great place but like i said its filled with elderly people who have nothing better to do. does it make him right? not in my eyes...if youre going to sign something you had better believe in it. otherwise dont waste taxpayers money... nothern1 im with you...hey have you seen hawaiis CCW laws? you have to write to the chief of police amongst other things...of who is always "too busy" to answer. i was born and raised in hawaii...sad to say but: great place to visit, dont live here.
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Re: Hawaii Bill Would Ban Folders
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03/24/09 12:39 PM
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And then there are the elderly on my little redneck island, who carry knives and guns! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />
Horned, dangerous, and off my medication.
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Re: Hawaii Bill Would Ban Folders
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03/24/09 06:18 PM
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Jim
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As an update, I ran across this post in the American Knife & Tool Institute subform of BladeForums: AKTI Halts Hawaii, Files Texas Bills
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Re: Hawaii Bill Would Ban Folders
[Re: Jim]
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03/24/09 10:47 PM
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snotpig
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Why are people so afraid of switchblades? My guess is from watching too many bad 80's movies.
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Re: Hawaii Bill Would Ban Folders
[Re: snotpig]
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03/25/09 12:01 AM
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Jim
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You're correct that it's knee-jerk public perception, but you're wrong on the time, the US Switchblade Act of 1958 was a reaction to teen gang movies of the '50s. Similarly, states enacted laws covering balisongs (California is especially tough) due to public perception that Asian gangs were running amok with them. Knife laws are often poorly defined and intentionally vague so that police and prosecutors have more flexibility in how they choose to enforce them.
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