Hmm, the MAK 90s are very nice and are very accurate too. How accurate do you need to be for your given task? If I could afford it I would go with a good AK hands down. For the money though the SKSs are hard to beat. None of these will be shooting as tight of groups as say Recon's 700 though.

Bloody scary if you ask me!

It IS scary!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> With the way the drug cartels are taking over the corrupt Mexican government it's not hard to figure which country the people will be running for. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> And they won't be concerned about Americans' rights either! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

Yup, the SKS or the AK wont shoot as tight, or anywhere near it, as my new 700 <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> that baby is DEAD-ON. But then again, its apples and oranges there again.

The Saigas are variants of the AK and are subject to ones opinions. In terms of reliability, they are very much and i mean VERY MUCH identical to the AK and SKS in terms of the gas operated system. They are not as common as the AK or SKS or course... Personally, I favor the tradiational setup of the AK47 or the rugged, oddly short SKS. those that shoot the SKS know what i mean by "oddly short". <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Okah.....reloaded!

For this reason I would personally choose the AK.

I know we like to get all hung up on accuracy, and splitting hairs. However, that is not the intended purpose of this style of rifle OR the specific round. Energy falls off pretty fast.

That being the case, quick reloads and more importantly, already prepared reloads, and not having to worry about strippers would be the deciding factor for me.

Assault rifle and good bolt action will do all that you need.

I seem to remember there's an old Chinese curse/wish: May you live in interesting times. Well, friends, I think "interesting times" are coming.

But to the original question, I'm not that familiar with the SKS, but I do own a couple of AKs. Both Vectors. I like them a great deal. Not quite the most accurate rifle I've ever fired, but they'll both shoot minute-of-man at 300 meters, which is good enough for me.

Owned several of both and I like the ak because of the detachable magazine and it can hold more rounds than the stock box 10 round mag for the sks. I do like the longer sight radius on the sks too. They are both easy to break down and clean. I think the sks is much cheaper than the ak right now, but they are getting super expensive too. I had 5 sks's at one time but kept my Russian and chinese paratrooper. I never owned a Siaga, but I hear they are super nice and accurate ak's. I always wanted to get a .308 Saiga, but they are hard to find. If you can get the Saiga, you can't go wrong with one of them, jump on it, they are really nice.

Nothing wrong with the SKS but I strongly prefer the AK. I like the pistol grip stock, more options for modifying, detachable mags. AK's are getting expensive these days though. I've seen shitty ones go for $700+. Still can get a good SKS (Noricos are great) for around $350-400.

These days I own a Lancaster Polish underfolder and an Arsenal Krink. Both excellent weapons. I'd also like to pick up a Mak-90, owned a post ban version a few years back and it was a very fine weapon.





The Saigas don't take standard AK mags so I would stay away from them. I own a Saiga 12 but that's because its a 12 gauge. Now that is a fun gun.

haha , the dog is classic!!!! HAHAH!

Yeah, he sneaks into a lot of pictures I take.

that was going to be my next question.is it true that the saigas wont take traditional high-cap mags.now i know.

what i like about the saigas is that without the pistol grip and wooden furniture they dont look like traditional AK's and wouldnt carry that astigmatism.these would be a SHTF rifle for my family and me should something very rare but serious ever develop and keeping under the radar as much as possible would be a priority for me.the same reason i asked oppinions on which was the least tactical color between black and tan concerning backpack selection {i went with black,non MOLLE}

RECON,

for the record that was very helpful to me and much appreciated.i new they where both very reliable rifles.i assumed the sks would be a bit more accurate with the longer barrel but wasnt sure about its exact operation in comparison with the AK.

would the longer barrel of the sks give it a better velocity/feet-per-second and if it did would it be enough to even matter.

thanks guys.lets all cross our fingers.i've known of those camps for a while and if you think thats scary there's a lot more going on than that.