Scrapper 6
Springfield XD-45
Mossin M-44 (hopefuly some day an AK-47)

30.06 is the best all around rifle round IMO. id take my remington 700 xcr because of the availability of the round... not to mention it can do everything i would ever need it to... serve as hunting weapon and as a sniper's gun if i had to use it for such applications.

If this is a fantasy selection...

Rock River 308 with Nightforce 3.5-15X50 and plenty of mags containing 175 Sierras

Glock 21 with 230 XTPs and 22 conversion

SOD - Whack!


This kit would get you through quite a bit of fuss in good shape.

First off, Steel Fan, it's funny how something so innocent one place can have a completely different meaning somewhere else. Now where I come from the remark about your girlfriend and a cigarette means something REALLY different. Guess that's one of the hazards of living in the "Redneck Belt". <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif" alt="" />
I concur (I thought we were talking about a grab and dash kind of scenerio) and would PROBABLY go with

Ruger 77/22 (or probably my 10/22 as I already have one) or a good .22 pistol of some kind, one that you can shoot WELL. It (at least round here, in rural areas) would provide a means of securing food and work for defense in a pinch. If restricted to only one knife, a good quality (one of the kinsman)if possible in a 7-7 1/2 inch blade for ease of carry and would work for about anything you need to do. (but I wouldn't have only ONE blade, I am never without a folder). If carrying a shotgun, it would be in 20 guage, packs enough whallop and the shells are lighter than a 12, not to mention less recoil lighter to carry as well. Oh well, my 2 c for what it's worth

But if I had to nail it down right now, I would go with:

RIFLE ruger 10/22 for the light weight, accuracy and ability to carry lots of ammo the weight

PISTOL Sig P225 9mm

KNIFE Jack Crain Commando (it's the only QUALITY blade I have in this length until the S5 gets here), then you know what it would be.

Rifle-

May change after I get to test out my FAL Para...

Pistol-


I almost went with this...


Knife?

No question-

I guess that the choices would depend a lot on the situation, but right off the top of my head, I'd grab a Remington 870, Ruger Security Six, and the DFLE... or NMSFNO... or Ratweiler... or............ OH I GIVE UP, I CAN'T JUST PICK ONE KNIFE!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/paperbag.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I agree with you Jeff. The situation would dictate the rifle/pistol/knife choice. If I knew I would not need the rifle for defensive reasons and only shooting food I want a good .22 for small game. If I was in bear country I would leave the Glock 21SF at home and take a .44 Magnum. If I was on the prairie with no trees the Dog Father and SOD would be overkill, one of the Bussekin 5" blades would be a better choice.

Gotta disagree with you on that. The 30.06 will destroy too much meat for true scavenge hunting(and announce to everyone that you are there <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" /> ). But I you really must have a .30 cal, it really has almost just about nothing over the .308 given the modem components; ammo is slightly heavier, takes up more room, and the rifle is also heavier due to the longer action needed, plus you will have a longer bolt throw. I recognize that WWII and Vietnam era snipers used .30-06, but there is a reason why they have phased them out and been replaced by the .308. I know everyone talks about ammo availability of the .30-06, and that it true, but in my unprofessional survey taken everywhere I have been since obamanation 08 happened, I can just as easily find .308 as I can .30-06 and .270. Don't get me wrong, the .30-06 is a good round, just not as good as the .308 <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> nor as versatile as the .22 <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />.

Agree to disagree. THe 30.06 WILL do more damage than the .308 because of ballistics and sheer weight of the round. But this is why I like it. And to assert that the 30.06 is going to give away your presence any MORE than the .308 is simply untrue. The .308 my dad has hunted wit for years is every bit as loud as the 30.06 his brother and myself hunt with. IMO, the 30.06 IS the all around best big game cartridge. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

True, however that is not what I was trying to say. I see however that such was how it was understood so my bad for not being clear. At first I was trying to say that any.30 cal would be far too much for various reasons (hence my suggestion for the .22 at the end <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> ).

I guess what I am saying re: .30-06 vs. .308 is this. On paper, sure a .30-06 has the potential to be a modicum more potent than a .308. But in real life (i.e. the topic at hand), you will simply not see the positive difference (unless MAYBE if you are pushing the limits hunting grizz or moose, but the chances that such will be happening in a survival situation, let alone one in TN or KY, are beyond slim).

So I guess my point w/ .30-06 vs. .308 is this, have you ever killed something w/ a .30-06 that you are pretty sure you wouldn’t have been able to kill w/ a .308? Or perhaps more importantly, have you or your father ever shot something with a .308 that didn’t drop (with proper shot placement ect) that you are pretty sure would have been down should you have been using a .30-06 (with similar bullet weight ect)?

On the other hand, things like size, weight, and rifle dynamics are something that you WILL see a difference with every single time you shoot or carry your rifle or ammo. Again, I think the .30-06 is a great big game hunting round (I gots one!), just not the best option...but thank God we live in America there are options for everyone!

You need to be introduced to the 45/70......

I prefer the .308 to the 30-06. That doesn't make it the better caliber. I have owned rifles in both calibers. In my limited high power shooting experience, at least in the rifles I owned, the 308 tended to have less recoil and was more accurate. But the '06 will never go away. The wide range of bullets available for it make it the most versatile of big game catridges. When my brother moved from Virginia to Nevada, he needed a new hunting rifle with more range and power than his old 7 x 57 Mauser. He got a Remington 700 in 30-06. It will kill anything in Nevada. But what do I know? I'm just an old squirrel hunter. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />