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 Scrapper 5 LE: Crossing the $200 Line
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09/20/09 01:15 PM
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I don't think that there is any doubt that the new S5LE is the finest midsized knife SYKCO has ever made. And the dogs in the yard asked for it. But it cost more than a Ratmandu. What will it do that the CG version won't do? Once SYKCO knives start going for over $200 delivered, they are in Swamp Rat price range. Granted, the S5LE is a special knife. INFI is a great steel, but it costs a lot more for that little extra in performance over SR101. I would have been quite happy with the LE in 154CM if it costs closer to $100 than $200. But the knives sold out and Dan's gamble paid off. The mystique of INFI is a powerful thing. I just hope that future Scrappers are back down in the more affordable range. I am reeling from the sticker shock of some of the recent Busses like the SAR4 and the SAR8. Just my two cents.
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Re: Scrapper 5 LE: Crossing the $200 Line
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09/20/09 01:21 PM
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I just hope that future Scrappers are back down in the more affordable range. I agree wholeheartedly. If the S5LE didn't present the rare opportunity to get INFI married to Mudders, there's no way I would have bought it. At the price I paid, though, it would have made more sense to have this release be a Swamp Rat knife and not Scrap Yard. The mantra around here is superior price to performance ratio, and I'm not convinced the extra performance of satin INFI justifies the price for a Scrap Yard knife. I think future INFI knives from the Yard should use the SS4 model - keep them coated to lower the cost. Satin INFI just doesn't improve performance enough to belong in the Yard IMHO, unless you can lower the price more. Even if you do a numbered, coated limited edition, that's fine, too. I dig the knife, and am glad I got it, but I hope this doesn't become a trend. It's a whole lot of money for a 5 inch scrap yard knife. The HOGS went nuts for this one, but a lot of the Scrap Yard faithful had to sit it out because it was so expensive.
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Re: Scrapper 5 LE: Crossing the $200 Line
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09/20/09 01:29 PM
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I got one because a 5" satin finished INFI knife for $200 is half of what a SAR4 costs. But when I thought about it, I realized that for that price, I'd rather have a satin finished Ratmandu. INFI is great, but SR101 is plenty good enough for this old man.
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Re: Scrapper 5 LE: Crossing the $200 Line
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09/20/09 01:33 PM
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I understand what your saying, and I don't disagree. I think 2 INFI blades in 3 years isn't a trend and we have been asking for it, and the boss delivered, thanks to Dan and Jerry's good graces (and long nights). We asked for satin, especially you Vic, we all really wanted it and we've had lots of it since you've been here, the boss really seems to listen/hear us! (bows). I also would like to see a return to the SY motto, "Superior Performance to Price Ratio" in these times, this economy and in this Yard. You've spoiled us enough Dan, and we thank you, now let the Scrapyards roll <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Scrapper 5 LE: Crossing the $200 Line
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09/20/09 01:38 PM
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It was more the satin finish than the INFI that I asked for. Busse's 154Cm is fine with me. As I said, the S5LE is probably the finest midsized knife SYKCO has ever made, and it is a special limited edition knife. But SR101 and 154CM with Busse's heat treat are great performers at more affordable prices.
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Re: Scrapper 5 LE: Crossing the $200 Line
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09/20/09 01:39 PM
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You've spoiled us enough Dan, and we thank you, now let the Scrapyards roll <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Well said - folks have been asking for this one, and I'm glad Dan listened and delivered, and now I hope he'll return to his roots and give us lots of inexpensive knives with amazing performance <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Scrapper 5 LE: Crossing the $200 Line
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09/20/09 01:41 PM
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You've spoiled us enough Dan, and we thank you, now let the Scrapyards roll <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Well said - folks have been asking for this one, and I'm glad Dan listened and delivered, and now I hope he'll return to his roots and give us lots of inexpensive knives with amazing performance <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> Yep. That's what I was trying to say. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Scrapper 5 LE: Crossing the $200 Line
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09/20/09 01:45 PM
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I hear ya Vic, and agree. Remember when the Mutt first came out for 69.95! omg what a deal that was, I was floored and it's still one of my favs and if I had to pic one blade only, it would be that for me, one tuff doggie! yet easy to carry. Be very nice to see prices around that range again (more or less) in SR 77 and 154CM. I feel very lucky to have what I have from SY and hope others can share and enjoy it too <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Scrapper 5 LE: Crossing the $200 Line
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09/20/09 02:06 PM
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I too hope and feel that the S5 LE is the exception and not the rule. I'm a firm believer in the SYKCO motto "Superior Performance to Price Ratio"and am completely content with SR77, SR101, and 154cm. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Scrapper 5 LE: Crossing the $200 Line
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09/20/09 02:19 PM
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Well said Vic and others. I love my new S5LE but I definitely felt this one in the wallet. I suspect most of us enjoy having a variety of different styles of high performance yet low cost knives and that is the unique contribution of Scrapyard. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Scrapper 5 LE: Crossing the $200 Line
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09/20/09 04:40 PM
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I don't think that there is any doubt that the new S5LE is the finest midsized knife SYKCO has ever made. And the dogs in the yard asked for it. But it cost more than a Ratmandu. What will it do that the CG version won't do? Once SYKCO knives start going for over $200 delivered, they are in Swamp Rat price range. Granted, the S5LE is a special knife. INFI is a great steel, but it costs a lot more for that little extra in performance over SR101. I would have been quite happy with the LE in 154CM if it costs closer to $100 than $200. But the knives sold out and Dan's gamble paid off. The mystique of INFI is a powerful thing. I just hope that future Scrappers are back down in the more affordable range. I am reeling from the sticker shock of some of the recent Busses like the SAR4 and the SAR8. Just my two cents. BIG +1 But, unfortunately for me and as you said, the Dogs and Hogs were ALL OVER IT, so it seems to have sold very well. So, while I don't see the value and think $200 for a mudder handled satin knife is WAY high priced, demand probably justified the pricew on this one. .
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Re: Scrapper 5 LE: Crossing the $200 Line
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09/20/09 04:44 PM
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I just hope that future Scrappers are back down in the more affordable range. I agree wholeheartedly. If the S5LE didn't present the rare opportunity to get INFI married to Mudders, there's no way I would have bought it. At the price I paid, though, it would have made more sense to have this release be a Swamp Rat knife and not Scrap Yard. The mantra around here is superior price to performance ratio, and I'm not convinced the extra performance of satin INFI justifies the price for a Scrap Yard knife. I think future INFI knives from the Yard should use the SS4 model - keep them coated to lower the cost. Satin INFI just doesn't improve performance enough to belong in the Yard IMHO, unless you can lower the price more. Even if you do a numbered, coated limited edition, that's fine, too. I dig the knife, and am glad I got it, but I hope this doesn't become a trend. It's a whole lot of money for a 5 inch scrap yard knife. The HOGS went nuts for this one, but a lot of the Scrap Yard faithful had to sit it out because it was so expensive. +1 I love the S5, but I couldn't justify the INFI SATIN price, so I missed out on "MY" preference for SATIN. I would have WAY preferred Satin SR-101 for $110 - $115. IMO - $10 - $15 is PLENTY for a satin finish over CG on a 5" blade. $110 - $115, satin and VERY WORTHY performance of SR-101 would have fit WAY more inline with my take on the Scrap Yard Price/Performance mantra. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> Maybe Dan will release an "SE" in SR-101 SATIN without LE numbers for closer to $110 - $115. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crossfingers.gif" alt="" /> .
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