Really need to read the ENTIRE quote for it to sink in!

Jefferson really was wise way beyond his time, and his words mean as much today as they did then. He really did get it.

That would be something good for Sumo. When we had our "outing" to Trail of Tears state park we saw a short clip about it. More like a mini documentary. I contacted them about if it was possible to get a copy of it. I thought Sumo might like it for his History classes. Well they never got back to me. Guess I will just have to get off my keister and go back there again and ask them in person.

It is its natural manure." Nothing else needs to be said about D.C.!

Here's another good one:

We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty or profusion and servitude. If we run into such debt, as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our calling and our creeds...[we will] have no time to think, no means of calling our miss-managers to account but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-sufferers... And this is the tendency of all human governments. A departure from principle in one instance becomes a precedent for[ another]... till the bulk of society is reduced to be mere automatons of misery... And the fore-horse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in its train wretchedness and oppression.

Todd, I think that Body Odor has made what this above paragraph says we are NOT to do his God, meaning that he wants it to be THE WAY (except not for him)!

was doing some work, got bored and made a SS4 pic... I actually did the knife in way more detail in case i want to use it again later but decided to use it in a more distorted form so I dont ruffle any feathers. may ask if it's cool to post it later.

LOL! I've always been a student of history, and was reading today about Jefferson. I changed my sig line to the quote about the tree of liberty because everyone needs to be reminded now and then of the cost of being free. I figured it was appropriate on Pearl Harbor Day.

Nice one Lazi!

thanks RTH! of course right after I posted it I had 10 new ideas I want to do to it.

I know it's blowing my own horn, but Dec 7th 1941 is not the only thing that happened on that date. On that date in 1998 in the state of Arkansas, in the county of Clay Patty and I became Husband and Wife (I checked, Missouri DOES recognize marrages from Ar.)!

that's the way it usually goes!