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Re: Sheath for Scrapizashi [Re: Rainwalker] #565260 01/09/11 07:38 PM
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I'm partial to leather myself, but nice work from both you guys! I don't have a sword, but if I were to carry one I'd imagine the Baldric would be much easier to use, especially in re-sheathing.



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Re: Sheath for Scrapizashi [Re: rth548] #565261 01/11/11 06:20 AM
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Baldric, according to Wikipedia... "is a belt worn over one shoulder that is typically used to carry a weapon (usually a sword) or other implement such as a bugle or drum....Baldrics have been used since ancient times. The design offers more support for weight than a standard waist belt, without restricting movement of the arms, and allowing easy access to the object carried." This sounds like what I was looking for.

It would seem to me that something 27" long hanging straight down from the hip would get tangled in brush & small trees. I would hate to drag something as nice as Rainwalker's leather work through brush.

How about left side, under the arm, for a right handed person? Strap from top of scabbard, around right side of neck to a point half way down the scabbard connected around the back? A leather piece (wider than the strap) that could slide along the strap so it could be positioned where the strap rests on the shoulder/neck should make the whole rig carry comfortably. A little like shoulder holstering a pistol. Then the left hand could steady the scabbard while the sword is drawn or sheathed. I'm getting as excited about the scabbard as the sword.

Has anyone tried sliding some sort of round disk, with a slot in the center, down the hilt to rest against or in the hilt built into the sword?

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Re: Sheath for Scrapizashi [Re: Mick] #565262 01/11/11 05:26 PM
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For my scrapi, I'm saving up for leather for sure, but still not sure about the design.

I was thinking something that would allow it to be drawn the way a samarai sword is drawn. The sheath would need to slide some so I was thinking sheath with a narrowed section to give it a defined area to slide and a belt loop with an oval ring to retain the sheath.

Then again, I don't plan to trek around with the scrapi. Too hard to explain why I would carry that to a park ranger or LEO.

Re: Sheath for Scrapizashi [Re: wrxguyusa] #565263 01/11/11 07:15 PM
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Look at the way swords were carried throughout history by people who depended on them.

Pretty much the only swords carried on someone's back was stuff like claymores, that was too long to be attached to a hip.

I think for the Skizzy or Waki, the way Samurais wore their swords, or the way cavalry sabers were worn would be ideal. Which means a cross draw, hanging from your hip at an angle, edge up or down.

While the Samurai way is probably the most efficient in how fast you can have a sword ready (the art pretty much consist of being able to draw your sword and slice your opponent in one motion), a cavalry saber type sheath is probably less "in your face".

I would say make a sheath that will allow the attachment point to pivot on your belt, so it can hang straight when you're walking, but can be angled when you need to draw it. Something hanging down your leg is more likely to be ignored than a long thing crossing your midsection and hanging out to the side.

Maybe a nice leather sheath in a neutral color with denim inlay for better camouflage? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

I'll stop overthinking it at this point..


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Leather is forever [Re: monsterdog] #565264 01/11/11 09:51 PM
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I just couldn't bring myself to carry a $300.00 once in a lifetime sword from Scrap Yard in plastic.

The amount of work that Dan and his crew put into making a sword was not for the Military it was for US.

Dogs. Rats. Hogs.

Not meant for the Marine in Afghanistan.

It was a direct result of us crying and begging for the impossible. A Scrap Yard Sword.

Make NO mistake about it. This was a really tough thing and risky for Dan to do just to fulfill our requests.

There will NEVER be another run of swords you can bank on that.

For my money and my integrity I would ONLY carry mine in leather.

Heirloom quality sword,needs heirloom quality sheathing.

My two cents.

Kydex is for play,leather is forever.


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Re: Leather is forever [Re: Prince of Peace] #565265 01/12/11 03:25 AM
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I gotta admit, I'm with you PoP... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

I needed a prototype sheath anyway, and I really wanted to put mine in leather, so I just had to do it for mine. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Leather is forever [Re: Rainwalker] #565266 01/12/11 03:54 PM
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I think leather is the answer too. The only problem being Jeff's increasing list of work. But I have waited 61 yrs I can wait a little longer.

My idea is more like a strap for back carry but longer, with one end of the strap attached at the top end of the scabbard and the other maybe half way down. A longer strap could be tossed over the head with an arm through it, so the sword would ride under the arm. I would think that in this sort of loose sling the sword could be easily moved around to dodge brush and steadied with the near hand to be drawn or sheathed with the far arm. A pad of leather could be placed on the strap as a place for the weight of the sword to rest against.

Re: Leather is forever [Re: Mick] #565267 01/12/11 04:27 PM
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[Linked Image from i167.photobucket.com]

Jeff made my avatars sheath with enough strap and forethought so I can wear it around my chest right side up or down for a faster draw!

I can also remove the strap completely so I can wear my DFLE as a dangler on my belt as well. Many options,one sheath.


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Re: Leather is forever [Re: Prince of Peace] #565268 01/14/11 04:27 PM
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Peace,
Thats what I'm talking about.

Can't see the bottom strap though, is it made like the top one?

In the case of a sword I was thinking the "bottom" strap might be better half way down the scabbard. I have seen military swords with two straps attaching to the waist kinda like yours but the "bottom" strap being in the middle like I mentioned.

With your style scabbard and my modification I think the sword could be worn at the waist or around the chest as you mentioned.

Since my sword is about to ship....

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Re: Leather is forever [Re: Mick] #565269 01/14/11 05:48 PM
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Mick - I made my leather sheath with a stud sticking out the front, much like old-timers wore their bowies/large knives tucked in their belts or sashes. I then made a "frog" for the sheath to ride in, with a small notch for the stud to catch on. The "frog" has a belt loop, obviously for my belt. I also made a baldric to carry my Waki and Scizzy, basically a "frog" with a strap that goes over my shoulder. The strap can be adjusted via holes and Chicago-screws. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Leather is forever [Re: Private Klink] #565270 01/16/11 11:57 AM
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Hi #1,
I am not sure what a "frog" is, or at least I am having a hard time picturing it. My dictionary says:

"• an attachment to a belt for holding a sword, bayonet, or similar weapon."

What if instead of a leather belt loop at the top of the sheath/scabbard there was a simple "clip" on the back of the sheath, kinda like the bent kydex clip on the back of my paddle pistol holster, or like the various attachments kydex sheaths use, except not locking. The clip could be used to secure the sheath/scabbard to either a belt or a "frog?" on a baldric. Could the "frog" be a simple piece of leather or sheep skin sewn into a tube that could slide onto the baldric? Maybe the sheath could slide into the frog on the baldric, securing to it with the clip?

Or, maybe the sheath could attach to the frog via a simple leather strap with snap on the back of the sheath? Or maybe the sheath could just have a vertical, instead of the normal horizontal belt loop, attached to the back of the sheath. The baldric could thread through the loop on the back of the sheath, eliminating the need for a "frog".

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Re: Leather is forever [Re: Mick] #565271 01/16/11 06:04 PM
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This is a simple version of a Frog. I think it's homebrewed because I got the picture from a sewing website (I think, didn't really spend a lot of time browsing)

[Linked Image from pieknits.com]

Obviously not ideal for carrying a sharpened blade, but it can be used with a sheath, such as this Eragon movie liscensed replica.

[Linked Image from 4discountknives.com]

Hope that helps to solidify an image for you


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