how does one go about ordering a lower from a company. i know that it requires a ffl. so do you ask around at local gun shops to see if they can order it?

You can have a gun shop order it if they're willing, or if they do ffl transfers you can get a signed copy of their ffl and order it yourself, but you have to have it shipped to the ffl holder. Just mail the signed copy of the ffl to the seller, easy peasy.

okay i guess i need to make some rounds to the local gun shops then. my first choice of a lower would be a LMT model. then if i cant get that one then maybe a spikes or BCM. thanks for the help SP.

i just found out somthing cool about the spikes lowers. they engrave three selector positions on all their lowers. even the semi auto ones. and they use bullet pictograms. so even the two positions lowers look full auto. they look sweet. they also have a lowe made for zombies. if you want a laugh check it out.

Funny. I used to own one of the zombie lowers, as well as one of the Jolly lowers (pirates)...the selector positions were something like "Parlee", "Arrggh", and "Plunder". Anyways, sold them and stayed with the more "low profile" lowers...no colors, no fancy engravings (except for one special engraving <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />)

Right. Find a local dealer that you like, and that doesn't charge a buttload for a transfer. I have one guy that I use repeatedly here in Austin...I won't change for anything. I like the small guys...it's more of a burden for the bigger shops.

Anyhow, find the one you like, and ask for a copy of his FFL so that you may place an order with LMT. LMT will request a copy of the FFL (you can scan and/or fax it to them) upon completion of your order. If you mail it, simply call them and tell them it's in the mail. Make SURE you include your invoice along with the FFL, so that they know who's order it belongs to. Easy.

Correction...apparently LMT will not let you do what I just said. However, this works with BCM, and most others.

Per LMT: http://www.lewismachine.net/

So, go here and find yourself a dealer in OH: http://www.lmtdefense.com/dealers.php?country=USA&state=OH

thanks for the info. i am trying to decide between the spikes enhanced lower or the lmt lower i like the lmtstock better but i like the bullet pictograms on the spikes. the lmt costs about $75 to $100 more than the spikes

If you're comparing "complete" lowers, this is not an apples to apples comparison.

The LMT comes with a SOPMOD stock, which is every bit worth the $200 pricetag. The Spikes come with Magpul CTR's, if I recall correctly....which yield a pricetag of about $95. So, make sure you're comparing these that you take that into account.

i havent had any problems with my magpul gear in the past. but i think the sopmod stock might bebetter for the recce build. the models i am looking at both have ambi selector switch. and two stage military triggers. i believe that the spikes is nickel boron coated though. i want the grip and stock to be FDE and both offer it. i cant be sure but i believe that both companies are out of stock though. i am not sure yet which one i will get but it could be which ever one is in stock first...... i dont want to wait forever. it sees bcm and brownells and other companies are out of stock with no idea of when the parts will be in stock again. So LMT or Spikes...... which one.....

BCM...nothing on the "lowers" page says "out of stock".

Fill this out, send in with MO + copy of FFL: http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/v/vspfiles/assets/images/bcm%20lrg%20order%20form.pdf

THEN, select whichever stock you want....SOPMOD, CTR, whatever. The SOPMOD is noticably heavier than the CTR...FYI only. I love my CTR's....if aiming for a truly lightweight rig, they are ideal.

iwill have to add a grip. stock. spikes buffer and a ambi selector though.