Here's the Rat 3
http://www.knifehog.com/p-1786-ontario-k...CFQpgMgodLTAAiQ

They both are good knives, but of course NOTHING like The Busse Boys wares. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

the 1311 is my first sykco blade, but the TAK and BK16 are both excellent blades in the 4" size. TAK has a choil, BK16 does not.

The only Esee I have is a rowen made HEST I found the handle on the 3 too small

the Tak is HEAVY though.

Yeah it is kinda on the small side.

Not sure how the rat 3 compares to the Esee 3 in terms of handle size

Both of these were the RAT originals as made by Ontario.

truth. I also have a couple of customs and a B4Le in that size range.
I wish the B4 had a grip more like the 711 res c instead of the war dog

I also have an original RAT Model 1 folder, plain satin blade. It is nice. VERY nice feeling in the hand.

Even my dumpster mutt has a handle that is slightly small

the RAT3 by ontario has a slightly smaller handle than the ESEE3
I did not like the ESEE 3 at all.
I miss my original Basic 3, though - loved that old style basic handle!