5 to 10 at the most I think families that is.

I also agree that there is a line that to many people would really stand out. But lots of hands for work and security are nice.

Also we need to not rush this. We need to check this out from all angles.

You can run vehicles on a wood stove. Been wanting to fool with it.

Me too!!

Be awsome to need next to no fuel

Or we could just have a big still and run them on ethanol.

Them or us ???

yeah

Gasification it can be dangerous if not done right be careful if you play with it, but yes it works fine.

The Missouri Ozarks has all that. No BIG mountains, but some rather large "Hills" Good country, lakes, rivers, streams and farmland for crops and livestock. PLUS a lot of folks there are already know how to productively use the land. Lot of areas that are not "Taken" by already built up communities. Might I suggest something around Van Burean or Eminence. (just google them) Roughly halfway across the country so ALL the dogs from East to West and North to South would all not have to travel across the entire country.

PLUS if we all showed up en mass we cold just take over. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Oh and Might I add that there are a lot of mules around in this area. Mules equal NOT needing mechanized (motor powered) equipment. And there are Amish and Mennonites around in this area as well that could help with a lot of things. IF the Dogs proved to be good neighbors I'm sure they would help and welcome the influx of additional Like minded individuals and for the security as well.

Oh yeah, there are also a bunch of "Campsites" on the river(S) that have individual "Cabins" in small groups.