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Re: Personal protective equipment (ballistic type) [Re: gun dog] #961353 04/25/14 01:54 PM
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Medium
SAPI
9.5" by 12.5"
~6.5 lbs.
2.95 kg.
"
For the Medium OTV (Outer Tactical Vest)

$ 230

AR500 Armor® 10” x 12” Body Armor Features:
10” x 12” body armor will fit in Plate Carriers capable of accepting up to Medium and Large SAPI plates
Outlasts Ceramic, Dyneema, and UHMWPE constructed body armor
Multi-Hit capable and Stand-Alone
Level III Rifle threat rated for calibers up to 7.62x51 (.308 Winchester) at 2,780fps
PAXCON (Line-X) Military grade anti-spall & fragmentation protective coating
Certification, Independent, and In-House Ballistic Resistant
.25” Ultra Low Profile
Weight 7.5lb’s
100% Made in the USA
85 dollars for the curved plate

1 lbs difference per plate I call that negligible we should probable all loose at least 2 lbs I know I could.

Not trying to start a fight just putting the new info out there I believe that many are running on the old school info and not taking into account the new ar500 type steels.


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Re: Personal protective equipment (ballistic type) [Re: gun dog] #961354 04/25/14 02:37 PM
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Good info Greaser.

I need to get me a chest rig.


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Re: Personal protective equipment (ballistic type) [Re: gun dog] #961763 04/25/14 07:06 PM
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This is interesting, as the only equipment I wore was the old flak jackets; good that they have made improvements. But as some of us are a lot older than when I wore that flak jacket, weight DOES matter!


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Re: Personal protective equipment (ballistic type) [Re: gun dog] #961768 04/25/14 10:19 PM
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No problem Ishikawa I just hope it helps.
PK weight does matter but 2 lbs isn't a make or break difference for 2 plates IMHO.


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Re: Personal protective equipment (ballistic type) [Re: gun dog] #961771 04/25/14 11:02 PM
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Yep I'm trying to decide what carrier to go with. After I move to my new apartment and make sure my budget is balanced I will probably buy then.


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Re: Personal protective equipment (ballistic type) [Re: gun dog] #961775 04/26/14 01:02 AM
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After playing with the new compositeplates I have plate envy. I'm just not willing to spend the $$$ to upgrade and I am a huge fan on my triple curve front plate. Its a beast at 12 lbs though. The new stuff is 2lbs or less.


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Re: Personal protective equipment (ballistic type) [Re: gun dog] #964358 04/27/14 01:04 AM
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I have some insight into IIIA. When the first designs came out they had no problem stopping a heavy 44MAG round, but the problem was that the energy transferred behind the armor was too great. Similarly, a IIIA might be able to stop some smaller rifle rounds, but it could still leave the wearer mortally wounded and definitely incapacitated. The design modifications really drove up the cost. IIA and III is a good compromise for a majority of rounds fired at police, but for the situation you are planning, who knows.

I think a big reason why armor is effective for military and police is having a medic and evac at hand. From the guys I've talked to, getting hit in armor is not easy to shake off and keep going. I don't know how useful it would be without a support team around, but than again, better than nothing.

Re: Personal protective equipment (ballistic type) [Re: gun dog] #965340 04/27/14 11:05 AM
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Yeah I'm looking into that information. Just because it stops the bullets doesn't mean your home free. You catching a ton of kinetic energy. Looks like several manufactures are making a special pad to ride behind the plate to help counter and slow that energy dump.


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Re: Personal protective equipment (ballistic type) [Re: gun dog] #966004 04/27/14 06:08 PM
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Good insight. wink


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Re: Personal protective equipment (ballistic type) [Re: gun dog] #966627 04/28/14 07:40 AM
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The steel plates help with the KE (less deformation and more surface area to disperse it.) but a pad behind them would be welcome.


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Re: Personal protective equipment (ballistic type) [Re: gun dog] #966628 04/28/14 07:55 AM
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If I could afford it this is what I would be rocking but I don't buy lottery tickets so AR500 it is.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Skin_%28body_armor%29


here is the backer that AR500 has developed I will be getting some for sure this summer.
http://www.ar500armor.com/ar500-armor-trauma-pad-10-x-12-asc.html#.U15BuKIXuZQ


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Re: Personal protective equipment (ballistic type) [Re: gun dog] #966725 04/28/14 10:06 AM
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Yeah those are the pads I was talking about.
Also their carbon nano tube armor is cool.
If worn with a hard plate would you wear it infront to catch bullet fragments or behind to cushion impact?


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