I had a Dog Father at one time. I could take the place of a small ax if you ask me. BUT I felt as if it were to heavy for my tastes so I traded it to an Active duty Marine in exchange for the at that time forthcoming 911. The 911 came out, and I shortly received mine WITH a kydex sheath he made for it. I considered it a good trade.

Now if it had been an LE (being lighter), I might have kept it.