Thanks Horn Dog I was getting really confused. I did a search on google and found out the guy from the original ATC and Justin from Ranger knives are having a huge fight. Apparently they are both accusing each other of ripping the other off in a business deal. Personally from what I have heard about Justin I would give him the benefit of the doubt as everyone I know who has dealt with him speaks very highly of him.

My norse hawk seems a bit better than the old CS hawks but not nearly as good as the ATC's. There is nothing on the ATC sirte about their wood handled hawks at all. I would consider the new CS to be very much like the original trade hawks that were used on the frontier. They were made really cheap and brought over in huge bunches but with a lot of work and a bit of skill could be made into a very nice weapon. I bet Horndog could do some neat stuff to one?