I'm going to give the Swamp the benefit of the doubt and see what happens when they get here. The heat treatment regimen is so absolutely critical to the final performance of the blade that we should re-read the statement "they are in such widespread use that heat treat varies widely." I read it just the opposite from most I think, that there is potentially great opportunity to improve the performance with the right heat treatment protocol, the kind of treatment regimen that a mass market folder company isn't going to invest in.