I think I can come up with something that would suit both people like Jerrywhy who want to see people be more responsible for their own lives and people who would like to see them given some help.

We will pay people enough to live on and supply their recreational drug needs but they have to have either a tubal ligation or vasectomy and if they break any serious laws(hurt anyone) they lose that privilege. Some people are write off's
so expecting them to change is unrealistic. We need to reduce the negative effect they have on society and keep them from making more write off's. If you are willing to admit you can't take care of yourself we will do it for you but you do lose some of the rights a responsible contributing member of society has.


Legalizing drugs actually dramatically decreases the cost for society as far as health care. In Vancouver they have a safe injection site which has had a very dramatic and positive effect on aids and hep rates as well as crime. Heroin and cocaine are not that harmfull by themselves ,it is the dirty needles and horrible lifestyle that causes most of the health issues. Most heroin and cocaine users hold normal jobs and are not addicts. It is a multi billion dollar industry. Homeless people do not have billions of dollars.


I am all for pee tests where someone is doing a job where they would be putting other people at risk like truckers ,air traffic controlers etc. But not where there is not a physical risk. People should be judged by how they do their job not what they do on their free time. Already there are company's with ninsmoking policy's that test their employees and fire them for doing something perfectly legal on their own time. It is only a matter of time before employers who are vegatarians or antigun nuts start testing and firing employees for what they do in their free time.


I usually avoid discussions like this on the net (particularly BF) because some people are so angry and bitter that anyone with a different view(and mine is quite different) is attacked. I think it shows what a great place this is that we can all have totally different opinions yet still be friends. Good Show.