YardDawg - that's not a bad idea either. Swamp Rat has the Rat Trap folder, and everyone raves about it. However, I can't justify so much money for a folder - my Cold Steel X-2 Voyager is a very good knife for half the price of a Rat Trap. However, to each their own! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />