Be careful Vic. You don't want to snap another blade with all those heavy duty tests <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> I'm going camping the 4th of July weekend. I plan on taking the Bird Dog with me for a little use......probably be about as heavy as you just tested the Mud Puppy <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />