Someone on the Bark River forum brought to my attention that the HF 1x30 occasionally goes on sale for $30, so I'll be keeping my eye out, but at the same time, there's only 2 of those delta SA180 left. I've seen the stuff that you and KG do on the HF and it's great, but KG was really convincing. I'll think it over in class and pick it up after if i decide to jump on it.