I think Tolly or maybe Vic mentioned the pants. Lil help guys ? Check the thread where Tolly sharpened that tram- thing looks like an LE !! Brutal <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />. Maybe talk one of these pros into setting an edge on the trams ($$$$$) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> and then ya have something worth making a rig with maybe MPLE or ? and a mora and maybe a firesteel- deadly combo I would think. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />