Welcome Viv <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />i- the MPLE seems to hold an edge very well. I had a bit of a time getting it where I wanted it- but once I had it wicked sharp- it is awesome. Is the only 154 steel I have so do not know if normal or not ? I am quite sure fellow Dawgs know more than I do. I didn't care for the grips at first- but now absolutely love it. Jeff is currently making pants for mine and the puppy seems to be almost issue here on the yard. You will find great folks here on the yard-Enjoy <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />