Might also be the case where folks were buying Rat and SY and that took care of their addiction. In other words - pull the Rat stuff and folks buy Busse.On the other hand I have heard that they have massive amounts of military contracts and the SY and Rat is just a hobby ? That being the case I can well understand their position and am happy with whatever I get from the yard <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />. For you guys that have been here a long time it is the feeling like you were loyal and now it is gone <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />. Us newer guys never had this- but can sure understand where you are coming from. Thanks