I didn't even use the OHT, Art. It stays in the knife pocket of my hiking pants, and I forget I'm even carrying it. But I could have done everything I did with the small fixed blades and more. It has a saw. Mine is old. I got it maybe 2 or 3 years ago, and yes it has blade and liner play. But for the money, it is one of the most useful knives I know of. I ground off the serrations some time ago to make it a plain edge. You know me, always messing with things.