You are so right, KG. There are many factors that make a knife great. The M9LE is a well balanced beauty of a knife, and it some of my other knives will outchop it, so what? The M9 reminds me so much of the DFLE. Both look and feel great in the hand and are superb all-arounders. But I love that NMSFNO just as much. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> It is the new king of the camp knives for me.