alright.... ended up looking at some condor packs last night and thought one of those might work. looked at some of the brands listed today and found what looks like the perfect pack for me.

hope to order a tactical tailor urban operator pack at some point. think this would be perfect for me as a edc pack. I'm not looking to be super organized with this one. I just want to be able to keep certain items close without having to hunt for them. something for the basic crap id want to have almost anywhere i could end up in the course of a day. once I have something for everyday I will look probably look for a couple of heavy duffle bags. thinking I can setup one for weekend travel and the other as a bug out type of bag.