Dan.... I am AUSTRALIAN.... you must realise this comes with some very special requirements...if I can't say something witty like "That's not a knife" before whipping this puppy ouy then IT IS NOT BIG ENOUGH... ; Understand I love my 311 (all four of them), it may well become of of my most used but....like a sword fight at the trough...it is the size that matters here.... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Now I am happy to model this one wearing some croc hide or nthing at all (we are a confident lot, even naked, but you have to make sure there is enough blade there to preserve my modesty.... so what re we talking....a 1511... or a Kukdog perhaps... ???