Excellent point, GD! This also applies to any knives that may be potentially used for self defense.

The 411, SS4 and Scrapper 5 SE would have made great fighters if they had no choil, but sadly they all came with a choil.

A choil simply has no place on a fighting knife as anything that could potentially hang up on clothing will likely do so. This is along the same lines as carrying a gun for self defense that has been proven to have a high rate of malfunctions...... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

IF Dan designed a 611 which featured a choilless Boss Jack type blade on a mudder handle, it would likely be the best fighter released to date by any of the Busse Group.

Especially if it featured the same grind and thickness as the Scrapper 5 LE..... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/paperbag.gif" alt="" />