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 Re: Scrap Yard Gun Talk
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07/19/15 07:20 PM
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Ordered 1500 rounds from freedom munitions. Can't wait to try them.
Any day I'm above the grass and I'm not a zombie is a good day! JYD#138
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Re: Scrap Yard Gun Talk
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07/26/15 07:39 PM
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DogTired
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So help me out! Need a new upper and debating the barrel options. Looking to shoot coyotes 100-300 yards out (maybe longer). My options (all 1:8 twist):
-- 16" stainless heavy
-- 18" stainless heavy straight flutes
-- 18" stainless heavy spiral fluted
-- 18" stainless heavy melonite straight fluted
-- 20" stainless heavy straight fluted
-- 20" stainless heavy spiral fluted
-- 20" stainless bull barrel with target crown
-- 16" melonite HBAR 1:7 (by far the cheapest optiom, but can't get a thin quad or keymod for that)
Gonna need to haul it a field. Not sure how heavy that 20" bull would be with an ultralight thin freefloat handguard, but I would think keeping the pkg under 8 lbs would-be ideal.
Is 16" just too short for this? Is a bull too heavy and unbalanced? Would a 20" spiral fluted be light enough and still provide good rigidity? Is 20" too "unmaneuverable?"
Thoughts?
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"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin
"A free people ought to be armed."
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Re: Scrap Yard Gun Talk
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07/26/15 09:30 PM
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SkunkHunter
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I have many thoughts, but none of them will help in this situation.
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Be a Sheepdog
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Re: Scrap Yard Gun Talk
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07/26/15 11:24 PM
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MonkeyBomb
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DT you can get a thin keymod on an H-Bar Barrel. I did that on this one and its one of the thinnest forearms on the market. ![[Linked Image from i198.photobucket.com]](http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa315/Stemshot/Retouch_zpsrnghci4r.jpg) Here is the forearm compared to a standard quad rail and a MOE ![[Linked Image from i198.photobucket.com]](http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa315/Stemshot/Comparsion%201_zpsizfcow1q.jpg)
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Re: Scrap Yard Gun Talk
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07/27/15 12:07 AM
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DogTired
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I know you CAN, just not from the company I'm looking at 
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Super JYD #13
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin
"A free people ought to be armed."
- George Washington
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Re: Scrap Yard Gun Talk
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07/27/15 12:08 AM
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DogTired
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Replacing the handguard would negate the cost savings of the upper : grin:
JYD #126
Super JYD #13
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin
"A free people ought to be armed."
- George Washington
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Re: Scrap Yard Gun Talk
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07/27/15 12:09 AM
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DogTired
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JYD #126
Super JYD #13
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin
"A free people ought to be armed."
- George Washington
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Re: Scrap Yard Gun Talk
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07/27/15 12:25 AM
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greaser
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I would say go for one of the 20 inch stainless at least that would be my choice. Who are you looking at getting it from?
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Re: Scrap Yard Gun Talk
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07/27/15 01:00 AM
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DogTired
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Midstate Firearms or ar15part.com Nothing but the finest 
JYD #126
Super JYD #13
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin
"A free people ought to be armed."
- George Washington
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Re: Scrap Yard Gun Talk
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07/28/15 10:56 PM
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El CacaFuego
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I have a buddy with an HBAR 18" that he runs suppressed. we were pinging steel gophers at 300 yards with cheap ammo. I'd suggest that. Even with a 16" heavy fluted barrel, I'd expect you could still get hits on target on 'Yotes.
NOt sure if it'll help you make your decision, but My thinking is this: If I can't think of a good reason why I need a barrel that long, then I don't really need it. Perhaps that will serve you as a useful yardstick as well?
"Teaching is not showing others new things, but reminding them that they know as well as you."
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Re: Scrap Yard Gun Talk
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07/28/15 11:10 PM
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El CacaFuego
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This one will be mine in the near future. ![[Linked Image from i22.photobucket.com]](http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b328/theblackened14/My%20AR.jpg) I have a friend down in Canyon City who builds ARs. I've shot this one a couple times during testing, and I sorta fell for it...  Looks like I'm finally getting into the AR market.
"Teaching is not showing others new things, but reminding them that they know as well as you."
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Re: Scrap Yard Gun Talk
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07/28/15 11:34 PM
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DT I used my 16in BCM SAMR barrel and shot a sub MOA group last weekend with a red dot. The 16 will work the 20 just add velocity.
Any day I'm above the grass and I'm not a zombie is a good day! JYD#138
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![[Linked Image from i22.photobucket.com]](http://s22.photobucket.com/user/theblackened14/media/My%20AR.jpg.html)