Some of Cold Steel's advertising is in poor taste and does little to enhance the image of knife owners. Like a lot of advertizing, it is probably aimed at the 18 to 34 male demographic, "Be bad" mall ninjas. That said, I still like most of their products I've had.

True CS is a marketing Co however how many are there in this country?

LT is arrogant and you could put him in the class of snake oil salesman. I believe in his previous life he was a realestate salesman.

As far as stealing designs well he is probably no more guilty than many other knife makers over the years. Even tho the convex edge is sometimes call the Moran edge he did not invent it. It's been used for centuries if not longer.

Warncliff did not invent the Sheepsfoot/modified sheepsfoot design. The vikings were carying knives and swords of this design 1100 years ago. What they did do is to revive it plain and simple.

Some claim that he "stole " the tanto point design from I believe Bob lume which may or may not be the case. Again while I can't cant put my finger on it at the moment I seem to remember that point design on a ancient Japanese weapon.

CS started producing very good quality and showing you what they could do. Nothing at all wrong with that however, they have gone of on a tangent producing unusual items rather that focusing on the main line. As a result the main line is well totally obsolete. Other knife companies such as the busse group did what LT could not do that is slowly improve the product while maintaining a high degree of Integrity.


CS is an odd company that will no doubt go out of business one day but in the mean time they do make some unusual items that are fun to play with.

The Busse group is without question the goto company for serious fixed knives. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

Rat F - I submit, you are definitely correct. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> As Evolute pointed out, its not my place to determine what is a legitimate use for anything, and he's totally right.

He and I got in to it in the death chat a little - my problem is that our government has made the laws so restrictive that I can't pack in a lot of places, on the other hand, a lot of those products are designed to be taken to those places where I can't take mine. Gets in to the whole VA Tech thing - and shooting fish in a barrel. Disarming the public, not protecting them, and then marketing products that can easily be snuck in by those w/ bad intentions.

The fix would be to make the laws less restrictive, not to restrict the products. I wouldn't care if the guy sitting next to me on a flight had a honeycomb if I've got my RAT 3 - or if the guy sitting next to me in class has a Walther .22 when I've got my .38. Its when I've got nothing, and they know it, that I'm bothered.

I would hold it in my hands and put it behind a door. Maybe I would wreck some sneaky Huron with it after he killed my boy. Basically whatever the hell I want. Why do you ask?

My freedom is more important than officer safety. Bottom line. It is an inherently dangerous jib that requires specialized and ongoing training. Police officers are trained to deal with actual and potential threats.

I speak as UK citizen we have the most restrictive weapons laws that I know of it still doesn't seem to stop the N.E.D.S meaning NON EDUCATED DELINQUENTS from finding ways to acquire weapons or make them where needed I have found the most neutral of items made into weapons I agree that giving the predatorary classes a ready made weapon can be dangerous but where there is a will there will be a way

Walmart has that covered. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

Very true, but also true is the fact that some mall ninja toys are fun. If you want another example, look some of the vintage weapons people like. A mace, a pole axe, a halberd. WTH am I going to do with a poll axe or a halberd? It doesn't matter, I think they're cool and I want one. So what?

Here are my thoughts. I agree Lynn Thompson is a blowhard and I don't like his marketing practices. However, I don't think much of Jerry Busse's marketing and sales practices either.

However, neither of these characters is dating my daughter or coming for Sunday dinner and it's their capital at risk. Therefore they can run their companies any way they wish and I have a choice to make. I can either buy their producets or not. In the case of Cold Steel, I have a couple of Voyagers that I like very much and I have a couple of fixed blades I have found to be fine knives.

I don't own any knives from Busse Combat. If they make product available at a reasonable price, I'll consider purchase. If they don't, well, I won't hold my breath.

I guess there is a target market for everything <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

I thought of that too <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Maybe sitting on the counter next to each other is what I meant!