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 Where to make a fire?
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11/26/08 05:22 PM
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Gideon
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I would like to go out an a trail this weekend, but I would also like to test some equipment, knives and general stuff that requires me to make a fire. Does anyone here know where in western New Jersey or Estern Pennsylvania one can go hiking and make a fire without breaking the law?
Advice would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Gideon
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Re: Where to make a fire?
[Re: Gideon]
#252526
11/26/08 07:36 PM
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pitman
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I know we should never break the law but if you are well off the trail where nobody can see you, as long as you make sure it is well out again before you leave, what's it matter ?
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Re: Where to make a fire?
[Re: pitman]
#252527
11/26/08 07:45 PM
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DotD
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Pit,
I kinda know where Gideon is coming from.
You want to practice your skill set, but don't want to break the
law doing it.
Here, we can't even practice fire making in our own backyards.
Our city council has decided to go "environmental" and instituted a
city bylaw banning open fires within city limits. Even fires in
firepits are banned. Before the last election, they were talking about
banning wood burning stoves, and also about banning people from having
fires in fireplaces "inside your own house" but the uproar over that
was so great that they had to back off from it.
Right now, if you get caught with an open fire of any kind in city limits,
it's a $500.00 fine.
I like your idea though about finding a nice secluded spot where you can't be
observed, to make your fire.
Dawgs travel in packs; Don't mess with the pack
JYD#62
Dave
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Re: Where to make a fire?
[Re: DotD]
#252528
11/26/08 09:30 PM
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ordawg1
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Pit,
I kinda know where Gideon is coming from.
You want to practice your skill set, but don't want to break the
law doing it.
Here, we can't even practice fire making in our own backyards.
Our city council has decided to go "environmental" and instituted a
city bylaw banning open fires within city limits. Even fires in
firepits are banned. Before the last election, they were talking about
banning wood burning stoves, and also about banning people from having
fires in fireplaces "inside your own house" but the uproar over that
was so great that they had to back off from it.
Right now, if you get caught with an open fire of any kind in city limits,
it's a $500.00 fine.
I like your idea though about finding a nice secluded spot where you can't be
observed, to make your fire. This is ridiculous ?? What would it hurt having a small fire in your backyard ? I live in the NW ( Oregon Coast) and we have outdoor fires on a regualr basis. This is a " tradition" - where family and friends meet around a fire and have a great time.Practicing our surviavl skills is done on a regular basis as this is something one wants to stay on top of in my opinion. I guess I just can't see what you are hurting. I sure wouldn't want to break any laws- but this is just too much. I certainly hope you find a good spot and can enjoy-best of luck-Thanks <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
KILLER DAWGS
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Re: Where to make a fire?
[Re: ordawg1]
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11/26/08 10:03 PM
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Gideon
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Yes, it's kinda sad that we are "governed" into the ground, but on the other hand, the wildfires in California are caused by lotsa folk that either don't know what they are doing, or simply don't care. So, again, all of us end up paying for some people's stupidity.
I really need to make only a small fire to practice with different techniques, and I thought I'd take along some marshmallows for my daughter to toast. That will make it more of a picnic for her as well. But again, I don't want it to turn into a $500 picnic because some ranger gets irritated with me. Its really frustrating, because I can't find anything on the internet. Perhaps a secluded spot isn't such a bad idea.
Regards,
Gideon
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Re: Where to make a fire?
[Re: ordawg1]
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11/27/08 03:40 PM
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DotD
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This is ridiculous ??...I guess I just can't see what you are hurting. I sure wouldn't want to break any laws- but this is just too much. I certainly hope you find a good spot and can enjoy-best of luck-Thanks <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> I have to agree with you on this point. It is absolutely ridiculous. The official reason is that the smoke in the atmosphere is damaging to those with asthma.... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> give me a break... I have friends who have asthma, so could understand it, if..... IFwe didn't have a PULP MILL within the city limits!!!! When that gets going and we have a good inversion layer, it's hard for people with healthy lungs to breath let alone those with lung problems! Gideon, I apologize for hijacking this thread with a rant. Enough said on that topic. I hope you find a good place. Moderators, if I've overstepped the rules, I apologize.
Dawgs travel in packs; Don't mess with the pack
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Dave
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Re: Where to make a fire?
[Re: DotD]
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11/27/08 07:22 PM
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Gideon
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Gideon, I apologize for hijacking this thread with a rant.
Enough said on that topic.
I hope you find a good place.
Moderators, if I've overstepped the rules, I apologize. No problem, I totally agree. I sometimes wish we could roll back the clock by 50 years. All these laws drive me nuts. Anyway, happy Thanksgiving!
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Re: Where to make a fire?
[Re: Gideon]
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12/01/08 06:35 PM
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DotD
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Gideon,
How did the fire making go?
Cheers
Dawgs travel in packs; Don't mess with the pack
JYD#62
Dave
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Re: Where to make a fire?
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12/02/08 08:03 PM
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Gideon
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Gideon,
How did the fire making go?
Cheers Unfortunately my daughter got cold symptoms on Thursday and had not improved enough over the weekend for me to take her out. I'm in the Caribbean this week and next on business, but I will definitely go out later this month. I will report back <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Where to make a fire?
[Re: Gideon]
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12/02/08 08:07 PM
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DotD
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Take lots of pics...of the Caribbean that is <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /><img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Oh yeah, and of your efforts making fire as well <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Have a safe trip Cheers
Dawgs travel in packs; Don't mess with the pack
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Dave
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Re: Where to make a fire?
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12/22/08 05:58 AM
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mcjhrobinson
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Pit,
I kinda know where Gideon is coming from.
You want to practice your skill set, but don't want to break the
law doing it.
Here, we can't even practice fire making in our own backyards.
Our city council has decided to go "environmental" and instituted a
city bylaw banning open fires within city limits. Even fires in
firepits are banned. Before the last election, they were talking about
banning wood burning stoves, and also about banning people from having
fires in fireplaces "inside your own house" but the uproar over that
was so great that they had to back off from it.
Right now, if you get caught with an open fire of any kind in city limits,
it's a $500.00 fine.
I like your idea though about finding a nice secluded spot where you can't be
observed, to make your fire. man i thought hawaii was bad, sounds to me like an invasion of privacy.
"Hey, this sure beats paying a Shrink $200.00 an hour" - Skunk Hunter
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Re: Where to make a fire?
[Re: mcjhrobinson]
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12/22/08 06:03 AM
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Art
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Believe it or not our last set of wildfires was caused by the sparks of rounds hitting plates from a target shooter in a national park. I figure, job security for all them firefighters no? So long as no one gets hurt anyway.
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Endure to the End
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