Scrap Yard Discussion Forums

Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3
Blasphemy #262370 01/29/09 07:13 AM
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,226
northern1 Offline OP
Junk Yard Dog
OP Offline
Junk Yard Dog
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,226
its O.K. boys give it too me,i can take it fore i know what i am about to say is total blasphemy and possibly down right atrocious.

i want an SR77 blade with micarta handles.......WAIT,DONT SHOOT,let me explain.

scrapyard knives along with the other busse kin are in the tactical/combat blade arena.hell,they dont call it busse combat and call coated blades "combat grade" for nothing and put menacing looking dogs and rats on the blade 'cause they look cute.

the res-c handles are fine.their great,tough as hell and beat any other type of rubber knife handle materiel.the res-c materiel has its place and has certain advantages over micarta with the advantages being possibly a better grip,shock absorption for chopping,using bare hands in freezing weather although unlikely and just pure comfort.

i just think for a "combat blade" a full,protruding tang is important.i dont need the butt of my knife to pound out a sniper hole from a cinder block wall but some do and res-c will not allow for that.i've beaten mine up pretty good.it will tear.

there has been times when i needed to pound something,had my DFLE in hand,looked at the handle and wished it had a protruding tang.now dan has already said he's not comfortable with anything protruding from the res-c because stuff can get up under there and that makes sense.

scrapyards thing is price to performance ratio.i dont know how much more micarta is over res-c in both initial cost and labor to install.

i was thinking maybe something very simple,without the normal "grooving" busse and swamprat put on their micarta handles as just one more way to keep cost down.we dont NEED all that.

and dont forget.its "price to performance" not just price so the question is will any added benefits be worth any added cost and i suspect this will very among us.

i dont want to get rid of res-c.it has its place but i think sometimes it is over rated.if you do hard batoning and i'm not talking about 4 inch wide logs but some 8 inch logs you will see that the vibration from a res-c handle is horrible and will really sting your hands.i honestly dont notice much value in the way of shock absorption even though you think there would be some with it being a rubber.

one more thing to ponder is that when busse switched to micarta from res-c they never went back and when swamprat switched they never went back either.i find that interesting.


Northern-1...aka Bad2TheBone...aka NorthernMarsh 1st member of Scrapyard hatchet/hawk club
Re: Blasphemy [Re: northern1] #262371 01/29/09 07:58 AM
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,257
C
crpoc Offline
Junk Yard Dog
Offline
Junk Yard Dog
C
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,257
I wondered if anyone had replaced res-c with someting else and had pics of it.


JYD # 87
Re: Blasphemy [Re: crpoc] #262372 01/29/09 09:15 AM
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 882
R
REM762 Offline
Scrapper
Offline
Scrapper
R
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 882
I would absolutely buy Scrap Yard knives with a Micarta handle. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> Good question northern1.


If you are going through Hell.....Keep going! Winston Churchill.
Re: Blasphemy [Re: REM762] #262373 01/29/09 09:33 AM
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,379
Steel Fan Offline
Junk Yard Dog
Offline
Junk Yard Dog
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,379
Yes something like that would be interesting but I cannot help thinking that within the Bussekin Group their thoughts would be if you want full tang performance buy one of the other "group" knives....

If the issue is having such a knife in SR77 my own experience is that when it comes to using a "pommel" for pounding on it would'nt matter...and this is just me...but also if you touch up an edge of an evening after a days hard use...it also hardly matters whether it is Infi/SR101/SR77...except perhaps on cost...where again...if you go full tang with micarta...you're probably into Ratweiler/Chopweiler money...

I sort of think that the whole 3 groups of knives was perhaps based around a "cost" scenario...

On the plus side...if you could have the balance and feel of a DFLE with a full tang and micarta...you probably have a knife as useable and balanced as a SHBM for a sensible working price...so that gets my vote very much so... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />


JYD #75
Re: Blasphemy [Re: Steel Fan] #262374 01/29/09 10:56 AM
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,247
F
FuGaWee Offline
Junk Yard Dog
Offline
Junk Yard Dog
F
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,247
Why cant they just extend the tang out beyond the
Res-c handle?
Or mod a knife by removing some of the res-c
to expose the tang.


JYD #76
Re: Blasphemy [Re: FuGaWee] #262375 01/29/09 11:23 AM
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 3,887
P-Easy Offline
Junk Yard Dog
Offline
Junk Yard Dog
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 3,887
It would allow too much dirt/grit/debris of any kind to get underneath the res-c and affect the steel.


Enjoy every sandwich.
Re: Blasphemy [Re: P-Easy] #262376 01/29/09 12:15 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 2,675
Prince of Peace Offline
Junk Yard Dog
Offline
Junk Yard Dog
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 2,675
Quote
It would allow too much dirt/grit/debris of any kind to get underneath the res-c and affect the steel. "Well said"
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

And the issue is having such a knife in SR77 my own experience is that when it comes to using a "pommel" for pounding on it wouldn't matter...and this is just me...but also if you touch up an edge of an evening after a days hard use...it also hardly matters whether it is Infi/SR101/SR77...except perhaps on cost...where again...if you go full tang with micarta...you're probably into Ratweiler/Chopweiler money...
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

That about sums it up,those are the two main reasons why Dan won't put Micarta slabs on his SR-77. Damage to the Res-C knife is what Dan has always said no to.Exactly why he said was debris on his Carbon based blade that could not be cleaned over a lifetime could potentially do damage to the blade. And when asked about Micarta or G-10 he replied NO... the price to performance ratio that Scrap Yard is built on would fade away and you would have two Swamp Rat company's in the same building. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif" alt="" />

Always made sense to me. And Res-C well I have cut 8" trees down with my dog father and it took about 7 minuets. Yes my hand burned from the friction on the Res-C. But I'm sure that without it to cushion the blow it would have stung a whole lot more. Micarta is not as shock resistant as Res-c by a long shot. And talk about cutting into the palm... give me Res-C for my Scrappers. It is what makes them Scrappers. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />


Peace.


Some people just never learn.

JYD #44
Re: Blasphemy [Re: Prince of Peace] #262377 01/29/09 12:29 PM
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 158
NB_GSXR Offline
Mutt
Offline
Mutt
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 158
Quote
give me Res-C for my Scrappers. It is what makes them Scrappers. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
Cheers to that!

Post deleted by Private Klink [Re: NB_GSXR] #262378 01/29/09 12:41 PM
A
Anonymous
Unregistered
Anonymous
Unregistered
A

Re: Blasphemy #262379 01/29/09 01:12 PM
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 14,586
Horn Dog Offline
Junk Yard Dog
Offline
Junk Yard Dog
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 14,586
Let's face it, Res C isn't all that pretty. But it works well and is easily replaced if you mess one up. I prefer it on choppers. The cost of fitting micarta to full tangs would put SYKCO knives into the Swamp Rat price range. Here is some more blasphemy, you can get some very tough knives in 5160 steel with micarta handles for SYKCO prices or less from a major US knife company. Not as tough as S7, but pretty tough. But if you want to stick to Busse quality, it will cost a bit more. Find a ratweiler or order a Busse Combat.


Horned, dangerous, and off my medication.
Post deleted by Private Klink [Re: Horn Dog] #262380 01/29/09 01:27 PM
A
Anonymous
Unregistered
Anonymous
Unregistered
A

Re: Blasphemy [Re: crpoc] #262381 01/29/09 01:28 PM
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 8,297
Rainwalker Offline
Junk Yard Dog
Offline
Junk Yard Dog
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 8,297
Quote
I wondered if anyone had replaced res-c with someting else and had pics of it.

One of these days I really want to Mod a Scrapper, and put some nice Micarta handles on it, just for the heck of it. I've got the Micarta, and done enough knife making on a amateur lever to do a decent job... but I hate to destroy a perfectly good Res-C handle. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

I like the feel of Res-C and have no problems with it, but I'll admit I like Micarta handles a lot too.


JYD#35 Dog Walkin in the Rain
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3