Gary, I can recommend Survive! Knives. I have a GSO 3.5, which I absolutely love. It is a great little knife with the 3.4 inch blade, 1/8" thick. Nothing fancy about them, no new strange design. Just what I need with nothing I don't. Mine is in 20cv steal. It takes a wicked edge and holds it a loooonnnng time. I will definitely be picking up their 5 inch without choil when they come back out.