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Re: Dealing Etiquette [Re: Dumpster Dan] #106560 05/30/07 12:59 AM
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Each prospective buyer has a responsibility for posting their offers to the seller. The potential buyer assumes responsibility that the seller acknowledges and understands the offer. No purchaser or buyer should be forced to assume if or who the other buyers might be. A potential purchaser cannot assume that a transaction has not or will not occur without their input unless the seller has explicitly agreed to and stated this fact. In other words, the first "I'll take it" takes precedence unless otherwise agreed.

In any transaction you may only get one bid/offer. Don't assume you're the only bidder/buyer. Don't assume that you control the pace of the sale. Don't assume that your negotiation takes precedence. Don't assume that unacknowledged communication actually happened.


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Re: Dealing Etiquette [Re: Gravelface] #106561 05/30/07 01:01 AM
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I really like the I'll take it rule. I don't trade or sell much, but when someone comes up with the "email sent" or "trade offer sent" and then goes mia, it delays people who actually can make the deal happen. I would actually rather pay $10 more on a $150-$200 items as a buyer and not go back and forth, but I suppose some people like the batering.

If someone can make the deal happen now, then it goes to them. I might feel diferently if the original intent of the item being offered was specifically listed for trade and not for sale, but if's it's for sale. Show me the money.


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Re: Dealing Etiquette [Re: J33psr0ck] #106562 05/30/07 01:07 AM
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I really like the I'll take it rule. I don't trade or sell much, but when someone comes up with the "email sent" or "trade offer sent" and then goes mia, it delays people who actually can make the deal happen. I would actually rather pay $10 more on a $150-$200 items as a buyer and not go back and forth, but I suppose some people like the batering.

If someone can make the deal happen now, then it goes to them. I might feel diferently if the original intent of the item being offered was specifically listed for trade and not for sale, but if's it's for sale. Show me the money.
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Re: Dealing Etiquette [Re: VANCE] #106563 05/30/07 01:21 AM
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In this hypothetical situation Guy B was under the impression he was awaiting a response from Guy A.....trying to be patient and not to be pushy about the trade with Guy A.....then finally calls after a reasonable amount of only to find out that his offer was never received and the knife gone.

According to KRAZ "The potential buyer assumes responsibility that the seller acknowledges and understands the offer"


This was Guy's B assumption as Guy B sent 2 emails with the offer and now that is why Guy B is...I don't have the words for a family forum.


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Re: Dealing Etiquette [Re: Gravelface] #106564 05/30/07 01:27 AM
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I would agree with Kraz as on that one. Tough situation that makes no one feel too good, but wheeling and dealing on anything is not like buying stamps. You win some and you loose some.


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Re: Dealing Etiquette [Re: J33psr0ck] #106565 05/30/07 02:41 AM
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Re: Dealing Etiquette [Re: Private Klink] #106566 05/30/07 03:01 AM
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A. the slow dog gets no chow

B. e-mail sucks


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Re: Dealing Etiquette [Re: Gravelface] #106567 05/30/07 03:18 AM
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In this hypothetical situation Guy B was under the impression he was awaiting a response from Guy A.....trying to be patient and not to be pushy about the trade with Guy A.....then finally calls after a reasonable amount of only to find out that his offer was never received and the knife gone.

According to KRAZ "The potential buyer assumes responsibility that the seller acknowledges and understands the offer"


This was Guy's B assumption as Guy B sent 2 emails with the offer and now that is why Guy B is...I don't have the words for a family forum.


My 2 cents GF,

It is frustrating and stinks when something like this happens and unfortunately it is one of the downsides of dealing and trading. Guy B put a lot of energy and research into the deal and was first in line, BUT perceived lack of communication by Guy B made A deal with Guy C. I've been there and lost out under very similar circumstances. However, I would not pursue Guy C to back out.

I would take the miss as wisdom bought and change the way I did things in the future. I've never really offended anyone by emailing or calling them to make sure they received my communication and interest in a deal.

Hypothetically, If Guy B wants a 1 of 6 or 1 of 300 and his desires are known across the forums, then eventually Guy B will probably get them. Hypothetically, if I decided to sell mine, Guy B would be the first to know.

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Re: Dealing Etiquette [Re: J33psr0ck] #106568 05/30/07 11:22 AM
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I really like the I'll take it rule. I don't trade or sell much, but when someone comes up with the "email sent" or "trade offer sent" and then goes mia, it delays people who actually can make the deal happen. I would actually rather pay $10 more on a $150-$200 items as a buyer and not go back and forth, but I suppose some people like the batering.

If someone can make the deal happen now, then it goes to them. I might feel diferently if the original intent of the item being offered was specifically listed for trade and not for sale, but if's it's for sale. Show me the money.

I too agree with this. If I'm selling, I'm selling for a reason and would like the funds asap. If I'm buying then I would like said item asap.

Re: Dealing Etiquette [Re: Bozoracing] #106569 05/30/07 11:56 AM
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Guy B is in a sorry state to be sure. If I were B I would contact C and inform him of what happened. While also saying I sure did want that blade and after 7 days of trying to contact A got no response.
Would c consider trading for the same deal as was offered to A? Guy C may think about what is proper and honorable in that case.
If not, B should smile,shrug his shoulders and remember it's just a piece of steel,run to his wife kiss her,hug and kiss his children and thank God his life is so full of love! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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Re: Dealing Etiquette [Re: Bozoracing] #106570 05/30/07 11:59 AM
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I would just call it a tough break for guy B. Guy A didn't hear anything over a reasonable period of time (that happens all the time) and he made a deal with C. I feel bad for B but if I were B, I would just call it fate and say "No Regrets."

Sales are easy and straightforward with an "I'll take it." Trades are a lot tougher to work out and remain fair to all parties but they can be rewarding with swapping unusual/rare pieces.

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Re: Dealing Etiquette [Re: Paddling man] #106571 05/30/07 01:10 PM
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Stacey - good to hear from you again! I hope all is well with you; are you going to make it to the Blade Show?

I still have to agree with the idea that the first "I'll take it" gets the goodies! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Tom


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