Here are some pics of mine.

I measured and the handles were 19 1/2". I cut down the shorter one.

I have a theory about some of the Ranger hawks. I remember at one time I saw one that had H&B stamped real small on the head. Now I am not claiming to know anything but it appears to me that they have much the same style and I am not so sure that some of the other hawks out there are not made by H&B.

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