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A buddy of mine has a 45/70 handgun. Does that count for anything? He still hasn't taken me up on the dare to fire my handloads in it though! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

The 45/70 deserves mention. How many 130 year old cartridges are still going that strong? It was the original record holder for extreme distance shooting too!

There is something to be said about lobbing a chunk of lead the weight of an AA battery at almost 2000fps. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /><img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

Sounds like your buddy is pretty smart...no reason to wear the back strap of the handgun on his forehead <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Check out the ballistics of that 45/70 to 500 S&W its surprising

Dan