yup...pretty much how it goes with those and i hate having extra tools on a sak or multitool. for this reason my fav multitools are the leatherman Crunch (the vice-grip model) the leatherman kick (the minimalist model) and this winchester special i only see at walmart that costs $13 modeled on the gerber suspension without the locks, lanyard, scissors or any other junk i don't like to see on a multitool. it's also got a good bit set, spring loaded handles, and a pretty comfortable grip. i gave one as a gift but i want one myself. if you're gonna do real work, though, no multitool beats a loaded toolbox. for that matter, a pair of $3 chinese pliers and a 10-in-1 screwdriver are enough to beat most multitools. sak's rule, screw what the rags say!