If you want a 22 don't forget to look at the S&W 617. It is a fun shooter with very little recoil. Accuracy is out of this world and would deliver the shots required to make a 22 stop an attack......Plus it's cheap and fun to shoot. Of course if I had the option of being able to aquire the HK, well, for me THAT would the the one <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> OK so I can have full auto in Oregon but it just is not affordable right now <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />