Very true. I think you are going to need a poll on changes suggested on the Regulator. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> Seems suggestion got pretty hot and heavy last nite. No argument on steel- with it being that thick can you imagine the strength <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />- plus great edge retention <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />!! Good Grief- will end up being awesome <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />