well Horndog, my only AO folders are from Kershaw.....I have a Bump, zdp189 Leek, and rainbow Chive..... fun to play with but I actually prefer manual for EDC folders (don't want a premature vasectomy from my Leek when carried IWB) .... but I recently read a review on the Needs Work over on Bladeforums.... I personally don't care much for the styling though.... the Needswork has a wharnecliffe blade ....here's a link.. http://www.knifecenter.com/kc_new/store_detail.html?s=KS1820