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What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops using ? #231671 07/04/08 05:36 PM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 489 Jersey, Channel Islands JerseyBob OP Mongrel
OP JerseyBob Mongrel Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 489 Jersey, Channel Islands	Just wondering how many Combat Troops are carrying Scrap Yard or Busse knives in the field (or desert) ? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops using ? [Re: JerseyBob] #231672 07/04/08 05:46 PM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,474 Layton, Utah Shaolin Junk Yard Dog
Shaolin Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,474 Layton, Utah	No idea, but also would like to know. I think Rat Cutlery sends some over as well a few other's I think I heard some where before. JYD #55 [color:"#00FF00"]Canyons And Mountains[/color]

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Shaolin] #231673 07/04/08 05:54 PM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 4,489 UK, near my S6. Boo-ya! Paul the Brit' Junk Yard Dog
Paul the Brit' Junk Yard Dog Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 4,489 UK, near my S6. Boo-ya!	Can't speak for the US but most UK troops just have their SA80 bayonets and Leatherman or Gerber multitools. Big lock-knives are apparently popular too. Dan did tan and sage S6's and Yard-hooks so they must have gone off to the sand pit for the US boys.. JYD #3 Poor, but still dreaming of a sage and black SOD CG...

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Paul the Brit'] #231674 07/04/08 08:26 PM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,226 syracuse,ny northern1 Junk Yard Dog
northern1 Junk Yard Dog Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,226 syracuse,ny	i figure for the most part its the same in the US as in the UK. they either use what was issued or maybe spring for a ka-bar or something under a hundred bucks they sell locally or from brigade quartermaster. my brother is in the navy.one guy he's in with was telling him he was a knife expert but had never seen or heard of scrapyard or ranger which i gave my brother one of each.i said if he hasnt heard of those two he isnt a knife expert. most arent into knives honestly. Northern-1...aka Bad2TheBone...aka NorthernMarsh 1st member of Scrapyard hatchet/hawk club

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: northern1] #231675 07/04/08 08:51 PM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,474 Layton, Utah Shaolin Junk Yard Dog
Shaolin Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,474 Layton, Utah	Now this has got me curious. A few companies are saying their sending knives over to our troops and/or law enforcement and that's why we (civilians) are not seeing them in the open market yet. So are they really sending them over or not? Just curious. JYD #55 [color:"#00FF00"]Canyons And Mountains[/color]

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Shaolin] #231676 07/04/08 09:36 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,873 Northern saskatchawan Unsub Junk Yard Dog
Unsub Junk Yard Dog Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,873 Northern saskatchawan	I sent a few knives to Canadian soldiers and I have an SA 80 bayo that will be here next week so I will post a pic soon. "if you want to be a hero you have to learn to drive stick"! Sara Conner

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: JerseyBob] #231677 07/05/08 02:03 AM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 7,208 Madison County, Indiana Andy Wayne Junk Yard Dog
Andy Wayne Junk Yard Dog Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 7,208 Madison County, Indiana	From Bad MOJO: Thanks Jerry for your donation to the Military & allowing us Busse fans the chance to participate in your generous donation program. TK did you a dis-service by not mentioning your generosity. USSOCOM... Priceless! One of our contacts at USSOCOM has just sent these cool t-shirts for The Busse Combat Team. Here's the run down. * Over 150 Busse Combat Blades to our Front line troops? - $43,433.00 Shipping and Handling? - $128.52 Overtime hours paid? - $3,920.00 *USSOCOM T-Shirts and a heartfelt Thank You from our troops overseas? - PRICELESS! Note the lettering on the shirts is Black and Gold. . . very nuclear! Jerry 1/27/02 JYD #4

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Andy Wayne] #231678 07/05/08 01:37 PM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,474 Layton, Utah Shaolin Junk Yard Dog
Shaolin Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,474 Layton, Utah	Thanks Andy. JYD #55 [color:"#00FF00"]Canyons And Mountains[/color]

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Shaolin] #231679 07/05/08 03:00 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 14,586 Georgia Horn Dog Junk Yard Dog
Horn Dog Junk Yard Dog Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 14,586 Georgia	There have been so many different combat knives used, to collect them all would take a lifetime. The combat troops, especially Special Ops types, often carry non-issue knives and other weapons. Here are a few issue and non-issue combat knives from the recent past. These Kutmasters were made on the same assembly line as the M-1 Garand bayonets. These are very rugged knives. Another popular combat knife was issued to the 82nd and 101st Airborne in WWII. It is the M3, bacically the m-1 Carbine bayonet without the ring and pommel attachment. This one was made by Camillus. The Viet Nam era bayonets for the M16A1 had an identical blade with fiberglass handles. Here is a current issue Ontario combat knife, patterned after the famous Marine Combat or Mk 2. These were also made by Ka-Bar, Camillus, and others. The Studies and Observatios Group, MACV, had some fighters made for them in Japan. SOG did recon along the Ho Chi Minh trail in Laos. It was a joint service covert operations group. Heavy Hook 3 operated from my base (56th Special Ops Wing, USAF). The Army ground guys from my base were all 5th Special Forces Group. The knife company, SOG, took its name from SOG-MACV. This is not an original. I carried a Camillus, but I wasn't a Green Beret, either! Here is a Camillus pilots survival knife, which was also popular with many recon units. This is the current issue Gerber LMF II. As you can see, none of these knives matches those from the Busse Knife Group that are being carried mostly by combat and special ops guys today. Horned, dangerous, and off my medication.

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Horn Dog] #231680 07/05/08 03:29 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 9,858 Fort Livingroom diceman Junk Yard Dog
diceman Junk Yard Dog Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 9,858 Fort Livingroom	I haven't been to Iraq - but have been in the Active Army and the National Guard (Korea Active, Montana Guard). I have a ASH1 and BATAC for field use right now, as well as a Gerber 06 Auto (a lot of guys are getting those lately). A whole lot of Gerber LMF II's now (that knife sure is growing on me - I like it). I still see a lot of "Ka-Bar" style knives as well, and the Benchmade Stryker autos. Always a lot of multi tools - SOG, Gerber, Leatherman, etc. Spyderco folders are popular as well (and carried at the PX - Gerber, Spyderco, CRKT, Cold Steel, Smith and Wesson, etc - some real crap in the mix!) In the event that my unit does deploy, I'm going to be getting in touch with Dumpster Dan regarding a special run! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> JYD#9

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: diceman] #231681 07/05/08 05:53 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,873 Northern saskatchawan Unsub Junk Yard Dog
Unsub Junk Yard Dog Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,873 Northern saskatchawan	Wow Vic I have been looking for a M3 to match my FS Dagger for a while now. Wow Vic I have been looking for a M3 to match my FS Dagger for a while now. Speaking of special runs of military issue Busse kin knives here is a great one and my most desired but sadly not available knife. I used to have a great little article about this knife on my Putfile page written by the owner and Putfile removed and lost it. I hate them but moving 2000+ pics is a pain. Anyway Swamprat made this limited run for a unit of CF(Canadian Forces)Combat Engineers and the sheath is custom. Here is a photo of a WW2 US army ranger with a brit FS Dagger. Here is a classic US knife. German ,French/Nazi ,US ,allied daggers and the photo that made me want an M3 of my own. OSS assassin weapons instructor kit ,aka the holy grail of WW2 collectors. Luftwaffe gravity knife. When the British were not pussies. Canadian woman workers at the Longbranch armoury. [img]http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/6/16814185033.jpg[/img] This one is my favourite [img]http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/6/16814184980.jpg[/img] I think this is a US WW1 or possibly a WW2 but still cool although the knuckle guard makes for a poor grip. [img]http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/6/16600360259.jpg[/img] This is my beloved second pattern FS dagger and the only knife in these photos I actually own. [img]http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/6/16420034736.jpg[/img] The Hitler Youth daggers had the scales replaced after the war and were used as Boy Scout knives. Even after they started producing their own Scout knives they kept the pattern. [img]http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/5/12716550133.jpg[/img] This excellent manual is available free for download (legally because it is a Marine manual)at Steves pages. [img]http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/11/31020314535.jpg[/img] WW2 issue Brit kukuri [img]http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/9/25520302539.jpg[/img] Bokers modern repro of a knife they made in both WW1 and WW2. [img]http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/10/27318591140.jpg[/img] This is a very interesting hollow handled Vietnam era knife called a Parson Hollow I think. Any info would be great? [img]http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/5/12716533513.jpg[/img] [img]http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/5/12716533554.jpg[/img] [img]http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/3/6602284099.jpg[/img] Can you believe I almost forgot to include a Randal<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif" alt="" /> [img]http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/2/3423280368.jpg[/img] Now some modern military knife porn starting with the Chris Reeve ,Neil Roberts SEAL Knife. I like this much better than the GB. [img]http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/6/16000432957.jpg[/img] Strider did a lot for the tactical knife business. [img]http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/11/31223001555.jpg[/img] The CF issue knife is not the least bit tactical but it is practical. [img]http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/11/32420484393.jpg[/img] Here is a Spanish SF knife. [img]http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/10/28719032560.jpg[/img] Strider's third pattern? FS copy. With a 1350$ pricetag<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> [img]http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/8/22518283789.jpg[/img] Very important knife for modern MBC by Covington. [img]http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/6/17916021319.jpg[/img] I will end on a strange but interesting knife. Someone missed the point of beating their swords into plowshares when they made a autoknife out of 100% recycled AK parts. I want one and not just because it manages to break about 15 Canadian laws by it's very existence. [img]http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/3/6616472048.jpg[/img] "if you want to be a hero you have to learn to drive stick"! Sara Conner

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Unsub] #231682 07/05/08 08:09 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 14,586 Georgia Horn Dog Junk Yard Dog
Horn Dog Junk Yard Dog Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 14,586 Georgia	I wish I had kept all the cool WWII weapons I played with as a child growing up on Navy and Marine bases in the '50s. Nazi daggers, Filipino daggers, Ka-Bars, bayonets, machetes, Jap rifles. What a wonderful childhood! Horned, dangerous, and off my medication.

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Horn Dog] #231683 07/05/08 08:39 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 18,009 New Jersey Magnum22 Junk Yard Dog
Magnum22 Junk Yard Dog Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 18,009 New Jersey	the LMF2 haunts me. i passed one up recently, $65 used. i figured i have a dumpster mutt, no point. still, i had an fbm, and i bought another. JYD #7 Preserve the Yard.

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Magnum22] #231684 07/05/08 08:50 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,467 Bakersfield California KnifeParty Junk Yard Dog
KnifeParty Junk Yard Dog Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,467 Bakersfield California	Luftwaffe gravity knife!! One of my fav knives of WW2 also dig the Kuckle duster. Junk Yard Dog #38 [P]ositive [E]nergy [A]lways [C]orrects [E]rrors

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: KnifeParty] #231685 07/05/08 09:18 PM
Joined: May 2008 Posts: 45 johnson37 Lap Dog
johnson37 Lap Dog Joined: May 2008 Posts: 45	I really like that OSS kit; a great piece for your collection.

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: johnson37] #231686 07/06/08 01:23 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,873 Northern saskatchawan Unsub Junk Yard Dog
Unsub Junk Yard Dog Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,873 Northern saskatchawan	I wish that was all my stuff! The only piece there that I own is the second pattern FS dagger. I do have quite a few other military knives mostly bayonets with a couple more on the way though. Any excuse to post knife porn. "if you want to be a hero you have to learn to drive stick"! Sara Conner

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Unsub] #231687 07/06/08 06:43 PM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 376 Yoknapatawpha County CloaknDagger Mongrel
CloaknDagger Mongrel Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 376 Yoknapatawpha County	Interesting stuff guys. HD especially, thanks for those pic. I imagine that even though we like to think that Busse's are "combat knives",I suspect that what most soldiers need in a knife is a multitool and something heavy that you can dig/pry with (not a cutting tool). Just look at the M9 bayonets: they have no edge, but they're cheap tools that can be destroyed and easily replaced. My math teacher was an operator for SEAL team six back in its early days, and he basically broke it down for me like this (i'll paraphrase): In the teams, the idea of using a knife for combat is basically a joke; its a practice popularized by Hollywood. If we needed to kill someone quietly, we used silenced pistols. If you've ever gotten yourself into a situation where only thing you have to defend yourself is a knife, then you've got serious issues and you should consider a career change I doubt that everyone shares that opinion, but I figure that if you're gonna trust somebody on combat knives, you might as well trust an ex-SEAL member As for LMF-II, i would say this: a DMCG is about 100,000% times better, and that's putting it lightly. I had all kinds of trouble making it sharp, it can't slice, and the handle is very weak. It is about 3/4 tang and made up of three parts: the steel tang, a ABS-style plastic handle, and a Santoprene overmold. all fine, unless the hard pastic part cracks (as mine did) and then you've got a loose handle. In other words, I've started thinking of my DMDC as a "LMF-III". Oh, and the sticky rubber handle gives blisters like none other. To be fair, there are a few good things about the LMF: the serrations are quite sharp, the glass-breaker/hammer is fairly effective, and the tip is VERY strong (but little/no penetrating power) Have you hugged your camp knife today?

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: CloaknDagger] #231688 07/06/08 07:32 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 14,586 Georgia Horn Dog Junk Yard Dog
Horn Dog Junk Yard Dog Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 14,586 Georgia	A Green Beret I served with had his base overrun. It got down to hand to hand fighting. His favorite weapon for that was the entrenching tool. My personal favorite weapon was the radio. Call in some napalm! Horned, dangerous, and off my medication.

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Horn Dog] #231689 07/06/08 07:58 PM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,957 rooikat Junk Yard Dog
rooikat Junk Yard Dog Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,957	I agree with Horn Dog on this one. Most of the Vets I have known had an incredibly high opinion of the entrenching tool as a CQC weapon. The odds-on favorite seems to be the WW2-Korean version, with the wooden handle and a sharpened edge.

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: rooikat] #231690 07/06/08 09:26 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,873 Northern saskatchawan Unsub Junk Yard Dog
Unsub Junk Yard Dog Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,873 Northern saskatchawan	I like my CS spade which I believe was even part of a group deal and now several other members have them. According to a guy who has a real soviet entrenching tool the CS version is better. While your teacher was in combat knives were an anachronism but now with combat being fought with much smaller units at much closer ranges. Now knives and bayonets and even in some cases swords (Check out who the AK Ruck was originally made for)are used both in F.I.S.H style fighting(fighting in someone's house)and bayonets are especially useful for transporting prisoners and keeping civilians at a safe distance. Also a good knife should be a tool 99 times out of a hundred so it has to have an edge capable of slicing and a point that can dig out splinters without breaking off in hard use. My Sar 5 would make an excellent choice other than the weight is a bit heavy. The YKCG and DMLE or DMDC would make excellent military knives. "if you want to be a hero you have to learn to drive stick"! Sara Conner

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Unsub] #231691 07/07/08 02:41 AM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 7,208 Madison County, Indiana Andy Wayne Junk Yard Dog
Andy Wayne Junk Yard Dog Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 7,208 Madison County, Indiana	Quote I like my CS spade which I believe was even part of a group deal and now several other members have them. According to a guy who has a real soviet entrenching tool the CS version is better. I have one too and really like it. I also have 2 US tri-folds, and the older US wooden handle ones. JYD #4

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Andy Wayne] #231692 07/07/08 03:16 AM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,957 rooikat Junk Yard Dog
rooikat Junk Yard Dog Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,957	I have one of the US wood handled entrenching tools behind the driver's seat in each of our vehicles, to help us 'dig' our way out of trouble. My Wife also has a Chinese army entrenching tool, that she beats the hell out of.

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: rooikat] #231693 07/07/08 03:32 AM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 376 Yoknapatawpha County CloaknDagger Mongrel
CloaknDagger Mongrel Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 376 Yoknapatawpha County	unsub: you bring up excellent points. Since so much of the fighting is now done house-to-house, i can see why tomahawks have come back into fashion. I can really see the need for a company like SY to make a military run of bayonets: something with more quality than the M9. You made an allusion to the original design parameters of the AK, where can I find more info on that? Have you hugged your camp knife today?

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: CloaknDagger] #231694 07/07/08 04:02 AM
Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 1 Pacific Northwest J Jimro Pound Puppy
Jimro Pound Puppy J Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 1 Pacific Northwest	In the Army the popular folders are the Buck Strider, Gerbers (cause they are sold through the PX), and Benchmades. The fixed blades are Benchmades, Cold Steel, and SOG (especially the Seal Pup). You'll still find the USMC fighting knife (kabar) and pilot survival knife (my kit knife for years). Any knife with an NSN is going to be more popular than one without. A lot of my soldiers carry the ApplegateFairbain folder because they get them as a re-enlistment bonus. Ontario RAT-7's have an NSN but I haven't seen anyone carry them. I've seen a couple BM Nimravus around. The sad truth is that there just aren't enough Busse kin knives in existence to be a significant portion of the carry blades for the armed forces. The Army alone is over a million strong (including our Reserve and NG members). I just bought my first Scrapyard knife, a YardGuard from ebay. It's a heckuva blade, now it just needs a MOLLE compatible sheath. Jimro

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Jimro] #231695 07/07/08 04:41 AM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 3,138 Ohio macgregor Junk Yard Dog
macgregor Junk Yard Dog Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 3,138 Ohio	My grandpa carried a camillus pilot knife in nam, of course he flew F9F's, A-1's and A-4's. JYD#49

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: macgregor] #231696 07/07/08 04:44 AM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 3,138 Ohio macgregor Junk Yard Dog
macgregor Junk Yard Dog Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 3,138 Ohio	Of course if I had to go over today I would probly grab my ash, sog power lock and a vtac. Probly carry a red devil and my millie also. JYD#49

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: macgregor] #231697 07/07/08 04:51 AM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 3,138 Ohio macgregor Junk Yard Dog
macgregor Junk Yard Dog Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 3,138 Ohio	Although I think the MOD7 would be better with its rubber handle and serrations for a primary fixed blade, leave the cutting up to the millie. JYD#49

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Horn Dog] #231698 07/07/08 05:07 AM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,207 Khost, Afghanistan reconseed Junk Yard Dog
reconseed Junk Yard Dog Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,207 Khost, Afghanistan	Quote A Green Beret I served with had his base overrun. It got down to hand to hand fighting. His favorite weapon for that was the entrenching tool. My personal favorite weapon was the radio. Call in some napalm! Might have been the oldest LT in the Army but from posts like this, he was the smartest, without a doubt. Cloak - Busse knives IMO fit the bill for Combat as much as any. Knives like the ASH-1CG and MANY others all can be used for cutting, prying, etc. The next knife I buy is going to be in late August when I get back from Fort Lewis and have the $300.00 to fork out for the black ASH-1CG. I cannot wait. Im interested in seeing how heavy and much of a tank, this knife REALLY is. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> JYD #59 1LT Clark Tucker OD, Platoon LDR US Army

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: macgregor] #231699 07/07/08 05:08 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,873 Northern saskatchawan Unsub Junk Yard Dog
Unsub Junk Yard Dog Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,873 Northern saskatchawan	The Large Spec Ops sheath will fit the YardGuard with a minor mod. It is Molle compatible and matches the uniform well. The smaller Wak sized version of the AK known as the Ruck was designed specifically for a US SF unit as a close combat weapon that would fit in a Rucksack. Now it may seem strange when most would use a rifle or subgun but if they were looking for a terrorist cell in say an country like the UK that both has strict gun control and would not allow a foreign service it could be very handy. Terrorists have lots of time to source weapons but it is doubtful you could find anything black market if it was an emergency. My current EDC would be the same thing I would carry into combat. My beloved SS4. I bought it thinking it would be one really good knife so i would not need any others. It turned out I was right. I did not NEED any others but I sure as hell wanted them. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> "if you want to be a hero you have to learn to drive stick"! Sara Conner

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Unsub] #231700 07/07/08 05:20 AM
Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 4 S svslider Pound Puppy
svslider Pound Puppy S Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 4	I think the military "knife expert" meant at using them, not collecting or purchasing them.

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Unsub] #231701 07/07/08 11:36 AM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 4,725 Georgia banana-clip Junk Yard Dog
banana-clip Junk Yard Dog Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 4,725 Georgia	While I was in Iraq I used a CG Dumpster Mutt. It worked out really well. I mostly used it for cutting 550 cord, opening boxes, cutting sandbags open, cutting camo netting for our turrets, cutting commo wire. I small knife like the Mudd Puppy or Harry Carry would have worked good too. Most of the knives I seen soldiers use out there was the Cold Steel tanto knives and folding benchmade knives that the PX sold. JYD #85

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: banana-clip] #231702 07/07/08 12:25 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,921 East of Lake Washington stansbrew Junk Yard Dog
stansbrew Junk Yard Dog Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,921 East of Lake Washington	Reconseed- I didn't know you were in Lakewood, thats my old stompin ground! I am about an hour North of you now, carefull going off base out there, the cops in that area don't take no crap. (lakewood is on COPS 4 nights a week) JYD # 28

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: stansbrew] #231703 07/07/08 03:46 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,873 Northern saskatchawan Unsub Junk Yard Dog
Unsub Junk Yard Dog Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,873 Northern saskatchawan	I also used to have one of the folding German entrenching tools which was to the Russian one like a Tiger tank to the T34. Incredibly well made ,it included a pick and a shovel with a sharp edge like an axe but weighed like 4 times what the CS did. I sold mine to a guy to strap to his utility quad. The guy who designs Mercworx knives also makes some cool but much rougher finished knives like this. He also makes some knives for some of the Sudanese christian rebels. This is a war where there is both wicked hand to hand fighting with knives and fighter jets. "if you want to be a hero you have to learn to drive stick"! Sara Conner

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: banana-clip] #231704 07/07/08 05:06 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 14,586 Georgia Horn Dog Junk Yard Dog
Horn Dog Junk Yard Dog Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 14,586 Georgia	Quote While I was in Iraq I used a CG Dumpster Mutt. It worked out really well. I mostly used it for cutting 550 cord, opening boxes, cutting sandbags open, cutting camo netting for our turrets, cutting commo wire. I small knife like the Mudd Puppy or Harry Carry would have worked good too. Most of the knives I seen soldiers use out there was the Cold Steel tanto knives and folding benchmade knives that the PX sold. That Dumpster Mutt was made for soldiers. Glad you were able to use one in its natural habitat. Even more glad that you made it back home in one piece. Thank you for your service. Horned, dangerous, and off my medication.

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Unsub] #231705 07/07/08 11:33 PM
Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 416 Texas T Texas Tony Mongrel
Texas Tony Mongrel T Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 416 Texas	How about Rat Cutlery Serial #0001-0120 went to special force and this one is mine.

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Texas Tony] #231706 07/08/08 12:00 AM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,474 Layton, Utah Shaolin Junk Yard Dog
Shaolin Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,474 Layton, Utah	I remember Jeff and the sub-forum at Blade talking about those. JYD #55 [color:"#00FF00"]Canyons And Mountains[/color]

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Shaolin] #231707 07/08/08 12:16 AM
Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 416 Texas T Texas Tony Mongrel
Texas Tony Mongrel T Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 416 Texas	it is sweet....Same specs as the original RC3 SE only except the pommel is sharpend and it has Green micarta scales instead of black linen and serial numbered

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Unsub] #231708 07/10/08 12:31 PM
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The Dog Pound Puppy Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 18 Nj	If our boy were using S6's we would've won this war by now! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: The Dog] #231709 07/11/08 01:57 AM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 916 BIG footed NICK Scrapper
BIG footed NICK Scrapper Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 916	Quote If our boy were using S6's we would've won this war by now! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> Aww, C'mon dog.

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Unsub] #231710 07/14/08 10:44 PM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,379 Steel Fan Junk Yard Dog
Steel Fan Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,379	This is quite an interesting question for me and in a word the UK troops are limited usually as to availability....affordability....and peer pressure/troop commander views on the subject. I started back in the late Falklands...a war embodying the poor kit being issued and remembered by many as the trench foot epidemic....plastic bags over issued boots....taking boots off the Argentinian soldiers and using their FAL's which had a full auto ability which the SLR did not. A handy feature in a trench clearance. If we could not get the "boots" right...imagine what the position was like on knives. Traditionally you got a Sheffield made slip joint sheep's foot pen knife with a Marlin Spike....the SLR Bayonet and if you had your wits about you you took up the chance to get a Martindale Golok....ignored by many as we were not going to the jungle....but the best bit of knife kit we had....with one exception. If you were in the know you could wangle an Army issue Kukri...I was initially with the Light Infantry whose depot in Winchester was adjacent to the Gurka's depot...I got one and by far these were the best knives you could get your hands on. Foget Fairbairn Sykes knives. Stored but never issued. The Kukri however was much better at hand to hand. When H Jones got killed leading the Para's up one side of Tumbledown mountain in a full fire fight.....the attack on the adjacent side lead by Gurka's was rumoured to be a walk in the park ( got to say I was not there on that one ). The Argie's had spoted the Gurka's coming up the hill with NV and Kukri's held in their teeth. That was enough for them....or so legend has it. I have read the sticky about not posting stuff which might be "horrific" so all I will say is the Agrie's had the right idea bugging out of there. There is nothing more effective than a Gurka in CQB mode with a Kukri.....it is like Kipling tells it in his poem - "IF" - "if you can keep your head about you when all around you poeple are losing theirs".... After the Falklands every NCO with either the Falklands on their CV or a Jungle School course or secondment to our SF's and the SF guys themselves...they all went for a Kukri. They still do. Our pay is such that our private soldiers are getting less than traffic warden's pay and putting their lives on the line. Spare cash goes on a Swiss Army knife or more recently a Leatherman. Some might splash out on a good lock knife. Very popular because once you get issued your webbing the space available is limited if you want to be able to crawl with no frontal obstruction and a lock knife easily goes in your smock. A kukri usually gets carried round the back and wedged between your belt and a hippo pad if you buy one. After the Falklands kit got a lot better and cash freed up. I remember buying Danner boots with a Gortex lining, a Gortex bivi bag from Survival Aids, a Gortex cagoule from Berghaus and having all this on my credit card for months.This stuff is all issued now. What would be incredibly popular allowing for the value for money aspect would be CGDM's or DCDM's if we could get a hold of them. Cold Steel knives and Fallkniven are much more available over here. If you work as a Sniper you need a larger belt knife for hide construction etc..so CGDF's would also be popular. These are all affordable but not available. I am home at present waiting to go back to work and for days I have been glued to the Busse Trade Forum trying to pick up a CGDM and CGDF. I really wanted a pair of these! I managed a DCDM but no CGDF....ended up spending more than I wanted to and went for a FFBM. Smaller fixed blade knives are not popular however if you have to carry a bayonet in the British Forces.....sort of seen as duplication.....hence the "tactical lock knives"...but Snipers don't have to carry these and basically can carry what they like for field preperation...the Leatherman secaturs are popular as well. JYD #75

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Steel Fan] #231711 07/14/08 10:52 PM
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meatcutter Scrapper Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 559 Wheeling WV	I'm sorry i'm still slobbering looking at the MegaPounder that Unsub posted , man that thing is sweeeeet!!!! "No we will not die like dogs!We will fight like lions!"

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: meatcutter] #231712 07/14/08 11:12 PM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,600 Somewhere with a knife Sharp Junk Yard Dog
Sharp Junk Yard Dog Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,600 Somewhere with a knife	Hmmm.. Interesting thing about snipers. I guess that's why MW was able to develop the Sniper. But onto the Khukri, that's exactly what they were developed for. The large recurve is extremely good at draw cutting and slashing. It's scary what one can do in the experienced hand. BTW, you should be happy with the FFBM. It's probably one of the most incredible, albeit heavy, knives created. JYD #54 "Put your hands high, let your arms be the pillars that be holding up the sky..."

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Sharp] #231713 07/14/08 11:20 PM
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james_bond Junk Yard Dog Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 3,574 Pacific North West	humm Mr. Steel Fan, very intresting stuff, I love reading the insight form the folks in the Yard. JYD #25 Clinging to my Guns, Religion, and Scrapyards.

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: james_bond] #231714 07/15/08 12:26 AM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,379 Steel Fan Junk Yard Dog
Steel Fan Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,379	How do you get a photo to upload to a post on here? JYD #75

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Steel Fan] #231715 07/15/08 12:31 AM
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james_bond Junk Yard Dog Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 3,574 Pacific North West	[img]url[/img] we would love to see what you got. and you gotta have it online like photobucket of imageshack Last edited by james_bond; 07/15/08 12:32 AM. JYD #25 Clinging to my Guns, Religion, and Scrapyards.

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: james_bond] #231716 07/15/08 12:45 AM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,379 Steel Fan Junk Yard Dog
Steel Fan Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,379	Sorry I have'nt got the photo's online. Just stored in "My Pictures". Never used photobucket..... I will have to check this out.....nothing is easy....what do you guys do? Keep an album on Photobucket? JYD #75

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Steel Fan] #231717 07/15/08 02:17 AM
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Unsub Junk Yard Dog Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,873 Northern saskatchawan	As soon as I read your post SteelFan I went and uploaded this photo. It is a couple WW2 Canadian snipers with some very high quality kit for the 1940's. So good that the High Powers ,Enfield sniper rifles and kukuris were still in use at the Falklands. Heck that Browning could very well be on some canadians hip in Afghanistan right now <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> That sniper in the photo uses his kukuris for constructing hides. I just got a SA-80 and C7 bayo today as part of a trade to a soldier for a knife that would be perfect for constructing hides. Either of these knives would be as good as you can get. If you need a knife or kukuri for military use PM me and I may be able to help? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> "if you want to be a hero you have to learn to drive stick"! Sara Conner

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Unsub] #231718 07/15/08 02:19 AM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 91 RajunCajun Pooch
RajunCajun Pooch Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 91	Whats the top knife in that pic Unsub? Looks like a rosarms? SteelFan, what are the popular lockbacks that you see in use?

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: RajunCajun] #231719 07/15/08 03:00 AM
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Unsub Junk Yard Dog Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,873 Northern saskatchawan	Yes it is a Rosarms baby. Here is a photo of a Rosarms you probably have not seen before. It has the exact same style of blade as the C7 bayonet I got today. Here is their new expedition knife which is a kukuri style blade which apparently dwarfs the Baby. I am falling in love with the shiny and am even polishing my INFI. "if you want to be a hero you have to learn to drive stick"! Sara Conner

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Steel Fan] #231720 07/15/08 06:23 AM
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Andy Wayne Junk Yard Dog Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 7,208 Madison County, Indiana	Quote Sorry I have'nt got the photo's online. Just stored in "My Pictures". Never used photobucket..... I will have to check this out.....nothing is easy....what do you guys do? Keep an album on Photobucket? I wrote this for the Swamp, but it should help you figure it out. The process is similar. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> How to post pics on this forum JYD #4

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Andy Wayne] #231721 07/15/08 07:01 AM
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 684 I Implume Scrapper
Implume Scrapper I Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 684	Quote I started back in the late Falklands...a war embodying the poor kit being issued and remembered by many as the trench foot epidemic....plastic bags over issued boots....taking boots off the Argentinian soldiers and using their FAL's which had a full auto ability which the SLR did not. A handy feature in a trench clearance. If we could not get the "boots" right...imagine what the position was like on knives. Traditionally you got a Sheffield made slip joint sheep's foot pen knife with a Marlin Spike....the SLR Bayonet and if you had your wits about you you took up the chance to get a Martindale Golok....ignored by many as we were not going to the jungle....but the best bit of knife kit we had....with one exception. If you were in the know you could wangle an Army issue Kukri...I was initially with the Light Infantry whose depot in Winchester was adjacent to the Gurka's depot...I got one and by far these were the best knives you could get your hands on. Foget Fairbairn Sykes knives. Stored but never issued. The Kukri however was much better at hand to hand. When H Jones got killed leading the Para's up one side of Tumbledown mountain in a full fire fight.....the attack on the adjacent side lead by Gurka's was rumoured to be a walk in the park ( got to say I was not there on that one ). The Argie's had spoted the Gurka's coming up the hill with NV and Kukri's held in their teeth. That was enough for them....or so legend has it. I have read the sticky about not posting stuff which might be "horrific" so all I will say is the Agrie's had the right idea bugging out of there. There is nothing more effective than a Gurka in CQB mode with a Kukri.....it is like Kipling tells it in his poem - "IF" - "if you can keep your head about you when all around you poeple are losing theirs".... After the Falklands every NCO with either the Falklands on their CV or a Jungle School course or secondment to our SF's and the SF guys themselves...they all went for a Kukri. They still do. Our pay is such that our private soldiers are getting less than traffic warden's pay and putting their lives on the line. Spare cash goes on a Swiss Army knife or more recently a Leatherman. Some might splash out on a good lock knife. Very popular because once you get issued your webbing the space available is limited if you want to be able to crawl with no frontal obstruction and a lock knife easily goes in your smock. A kukri usually gets carried round the back and wedged between your belt and a hippo pad if you buy one. Just to show that some things never change in jolly old England, and because some here may be unfamiliar with that old fashioned writer, Rudyard Kipling... Tommy I went into a public-'ouse to get a pint o' beer, The publican 'e up an' sez, "We serve no red-coats here." The girls be'ind the bar they laughed an' giggled fit to die, I outs into the street again an' to myself sez I: O it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, go away"; But it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play, The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play, O it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play. I went into a theatre as sober as could be, They gave a drunk civilian room, but 'adn't none for me; They sent me to the gallery or round the music-'alls, But when it comes to fightin', Lord! they'll shove me in the stalls! For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, wait outside"; But it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide, The troopship's on the tide, my boys, the troopship's on the tide, O it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide. Yes, makin' mock o' uniforms that guard you while you sleep Is cheaper than them uniforms, an' they're starvation cheap; An' hustlin' drunken soldiers when they're goin' large a bit Is five times better business than paradin' in full kit. Then it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, 'ow's yer soul?" But it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll, The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll, O it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll. We aren't no thin red 'eroes, nor we aren't no blackguards too, But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you; An' if sometimes our conduck isn't all your fancy paints, Why, single men in barricks don't grow into plaster saints; While it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, fall be'ind", But it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind, There's trouble in the wind, my boys, there's trouble in the wind, O it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind. You talk o' better food for us, an' schools, an' fires, an' all: We'll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational. Don't mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face The Widow's Uniform is not the soldier-man's disgrace. For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Chuck him out, the brute!" But it's "Saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot; An' it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please; An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool -- you bet that Tommy sees!

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Implume] #231722 07/15/08 11:37 AM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,379 Steel Fan Junk Yard Dog
Steel Fan Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,379	Unsub, great photo.....shows very little has changed....the Canadians still have the best kit in S'tan. Their .50 is a Macmillan - here is the link -http://www.mcmfamily.com/mcmillan-rifles-tactical-tac-50.php. We and the US have semi auto Barrets...nowhere near as accurate at ELR...to many moving parts.Thanks for the offer of help....very much appreciated.Rosarms look great but as you say "shiny"....sandblasted would be very interesting. But, how do you reckon the Canadian got a hold of a Kukri? Nylons or Whisky trade? Maybe cigarettes? Andy, this is a great help. Got my photobucket membership done. Need to learn the rest of it....got a family birthday today so have to leave the computer...upsetting a few from being on it too much! RajunCajun, in the early 70's there were Puma's, Opinel and Normark lock knives due to Whitby being the main UK wholesaler. Then Framar Hammerli brought in loads of goodies from the States...early 80's...Spyderco, SOG, Benchmade, all became available but most soldiers pockets stretched to a Buck or Gerber basic Hunter lock knife. Now, their pockets are no deeper unless you become an enthusiast and somehow find the money....with internet shops like Hiennie Haynes the choice is very varied. Law changes seem to be bringing back slip joints so that carrying all the time is not a problem. Spyderco UK knife is popular for this and the wave leatherman tools as well plus the all conquering SAK. For the money...Opinels have always remained popular....but there is a lot of crap being bought from the Far East which cannot take an edge but looks good.YOU WOULD BE SUPRISED HOWEVER AT HOW MANY SOLDIERS CANNOT SHARPEN A KNIFE PROPERLY AND HAVE NO DESIRE TO DO SO.....A HUGE MAJORITY. For my money this is the single biggest failing....I have sharpened knives for Colonels to Private Soldiers....they are amazed at how sharp a knife can get and actually seem afraid of the edge initially. Implume, he was a great poet our Mr Kipling....Tommy is one of my favourites! JYD #75

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Steel Fan] #231723 07/15/08 01:16 PM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,474 Layton, Utah Shaolin Junk Yard Dog
Shaolin Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,474 Layton, Utah	Yes, very shiney. JYD #55 [color:"#00FF00"]Canyons And Mountains[/color]

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Unsub] #231724 07/15/08 09:32 PM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 91 RajunCajun Pooch
RajunCajun Pooch Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 91	Quote Yes it is a Rosarms baby. Here is a photo of a Rosarms you probably have not seen before. It has the exact same style of blade as the C7 bayonet I got today. I am falling in love with the shiny and am even polishing my INFI. Sweet. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> I know what you mean, I'm about to add one to my collection...me like shiney too. I was thinking of the fox-1, but there they have a few designs that I like.

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: RajunCajun] #231725 07/15/08 09:35 PM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,474 Layton, Utah Shaolin Junk Yard Dog
Shaolin Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,474 Layton, Utah	I'm thinking about a couple of other's, but not sure at this time if I want to pull the trigger. JYD #55 [color:"#00FF00"]Canyons And Mountains[/color]

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: RajunCajun] #231726 07/15/08 09:54 PM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 91 RajunCajun Pooch
RajunCajun Pooch Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 91	Thanks for the info Steel Fan, I have a cousin in Afghanistan right now and I want to buy him a knife to replace the Buck Omni he insists on carrying (nothing against Buck). I wanted to get him a DMDC, but he says he would rather a folder, so I am looking at Spideys and Benchmades. I know this has been discussed to death, but I'd love a SY folder.

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Shaolin] #231727 07/15/08 09:55 PM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,474 Layton, Utah Shaolin Junk Yard Dog
Shaolin Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,474 Layton, Utah	Here are some pics of my ROSarms Stalker, it's a very beautiful knive. JYD #55 [color:"#00FF00"]Canyons And Mountains[/color]

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Shaolin] #231728 07/15/08 10:07 PM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 91 RajunCajun Pooch
RajunCajun Pooch Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 91	Very nice. That one looks finished Shaolin, on their site the Stalker looks satin or matte? I like the finished look better. Man, if you guys keep posting pics you are going to peer-pressure me into buying one tonight. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: RajunCajun] #231729 07/15/08 10:58 PM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,474 Layton, Utah Shaolin Junk Yard Dog
Shaolin Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,474 Layton, Utah	My pics of the blade itself does it no justice. It is very highly polished steel. It would be more satin then matte for sure. JYD #55 [color:"#00FF00"]Canyons And Mountains[/color]

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Shaolin] #231730 07/16/08 12:27 AM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,379 Steel Fan Junk Yard Dog
Steel Fan Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,379	Rajun, I got a Benchmade in the early 80's...one of their designer series, a Walter Brend liner lock in ATS 34 which I have carried everywhere....the titanium rollers make one hand opening easy and edge holding is great. It is light to which is a bonus. For me these are a nicer looking knife than a Spyderco.....I will post a pic of this once clued up as to how. JYD #75

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Steel Fan] #231731 07/16/08 12:58 AM
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gruntinhusaybah Lap Dog G Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 49	I've done 3 tours and the knives I most commonly see carried are teh CRKT POSs that they sell in teh PX, the occasional Cold Steel(again sold in the PX) a few gerbers(PX). After that it's Strider, see alot of guys carry these, usually the larger fixed blade tantos. Pocket knives is the same as above with the issued Benchmades and Gerbers thrown in there. I only ever saw one, ONE other Marine carrying a Busse and it was a Mudrazor on his shoulder. Saw a few guys carrying TOPS.

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Magnum22] #231732 07/16/08 06:03 PM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,914 California silverbullets Junk Yard Dog
silverbullets Junk Yard Dog Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,914 California	Quote the LMF2 haunts me. i passed one up recently, $65 used. i figured i have a dumpster mutt, no point. still, i had an fbm, and i bought another. The LMF II was the first fixed blade I saw that I really wanted (this is a fairly new hobby) and I became fixated on it but never pulled the trigger. I finally settled on the RD7 as my first and it has gone down hill ever since. I am still considering picking one up, they have them here new for dirt cheap http://www.lapolicegear.com/lmfiiasek.html I have ordered things from Lapolicegear before and the service was good. One of these days I will pick one up cause they are kind of cool JYD #64

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: silverbullets] #231733 07/16/08 06:21 PM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,379 Steel Fan Junk Yard Dog
Steel Fan Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,379	Well, here goes for my first post of a picture of one of my knives. This is the Benchmade Walter Brend purchased in the early 80's and must now be 20 years or more old...... Last edited by Steel Fan; 07/16/08 07:08 PM. JYD #75

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Steel Fan] #231734 07/16/08 06:23 PM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,379 Steel Fan Junk Yard Dog
Steel Fan Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,379	Well, that did'nt go quite right! (Edited to add - finally getting the hang of it and managed to post this.) I cut and pasted the "Image" details from photobucket as suggested by Andy into the post.....so I am not sure what I am doing wrong here? Any help very welcome! Last edited by Steel Fan; 07/16/08 07:11 PM. JYD #75

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Steel Fan] #231735 07/16/08 06:42 PM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,474 Layton, Utah Shaolin Junk Yard Dog
Shaolin Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,474 Layton, Utah	Of the 3 or 4 links on photobucket, under your image, select the last one, and paste it in your post, that should work. JYD #55 [color:"#00FF00"]Canyons And Mountains[/color]

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Shaolin] #231736 07/16/08 06:51 PM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,379 Steel Fan Junk Yard Dog
Steel Fan Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,379	Hi Shaolin, Got it to work on the third attempt at editting. Thanks for the help! Is there any way to reduce the size of the photo so that it does not go too wide? JYD #75

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Steel Fan] #231737 07/16/08 06:58 PM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,474 Layton, Utah Shaolin Junk Yard Dog
Shaolin Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,474 Layton, Utah	Cool. Not sure, could have something to do with the original size of the image before you bring it into photobucket. I use the highest resolution on my camera, so all my pics have a little of oversize. JYD #55 [color:"#00FF00"]Canyons And Mountains[/color]

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Shaolin] #231738 07/16/08 07:12 PM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,379 Steel Fan Junk Yard Dog
Steel Fan Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,379	Yes, you are right.....got the photo to reduce on photobucket and it posts much better. Many thanks. JYD #75

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Steel Fan] #231739 07/16/08 07:41 PM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,474 Layton, Utah Shaolin Junk Yard Dog
Shaolin Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,474 Layton, Utah	Your welcome, anytime. JYD #55 [color:"#00FF00"]Canyons And Mountains[/color]

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Steel Fan] #231740 07/16/08 07:42 PM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,379 Steel Fan Junk Yard Dog
Steel Fan Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,379	Over the years I have had a number of larger knives on my webbing...here is a very rare one....bought in the early 90's it is a Frank Vought Amazon from his Outfitter line....Rynite handle and supplied with a Kydex sheath and with a huge 8" x 1/4" ATS 34 hand forged blade and one of the best heat treatments from a premier custom maker. This knife is very close to the Busse Kin style and has served me really well. A superb chopper and holds a razor edge at 25 degrees....my only criticism is that the Kydex sheath does not have rivet holes down the sides and an angled rear carry which I prefer is not easily achieved using paracord and threading it through the holes. You need to carry this knife vertically in a standard fashion and at 8" the sheath can "bounce" a bit when running....I have put a bit of rubber carefully cut into the sheath to sit on the bottom...this stopped any "banging" from the blade and no sound comes from this blade in its sheath when moving. As of now my favouite webbing knife and the one I use the most. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Last edited by Steel Fan; 07/16/08 07:47 PM. JYD #75

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Steel Fan] #231741 07/16/08 07:46 PM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,600 Somewhere with a knife Sharp Junk Yard Dog
Sharp Junk Yard Dog Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,600 Somewhere with a knife	Nice knife, It would be interesting to see a comparison of that with one the Busse Knives. An CT or YG would an interesting test. JYD #54 "Put your hands high, let your arms be the pillars that be holding up the sky..."

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Sharp] #231742 07/16/08 07:56 PM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 4,489 UK, near my S6. Boo-ya! Paul the Brit' Junk Yard Dog
Paul the Brit' Junk Yard Dog Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 4,489 UK, near my S6. Boo-ya!	Quote Nice knife, It would be interesting to see a comparison of that with one the Busse Knives. An CT or YG would an interesting test. Yep that sounds a good test line up. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> JYD #3 Poor, but still dreaming of a sage and black SOD CG...

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Sharp] #231743 07/16/08 08:12 PM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,379 Steel Fan Junk Yard Dog
Steel Fan Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,379	Yes, a test would be interesting......but no "concrete blocks"! I have used this knife a lot but was suprised to learn that the Outfitter line was one of the last series of knives Frank worked on before passing away. This is I am told reflecting in a marked increase in value for these knives and as many will vouch for....in any Army if it is not nailed down everything can go missing....and I would very much mourn it's loss would that to happen. I have lost my original Kukri and an early Blackjack Maurader to this phenomenon.....Lord knows who has them now....I doubt anyone from my unit but they both went whilst on joint training operations...so I have now lined up alternative options for my kit which will not be irreplaceable or feel like part of my cherished possessions have been knicked! JYD #75

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Steel Fan] #231744 07/16/08 08:52 PM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,379 Steel Fan Junk Yard Dog
Steel Fan Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,379	This is'nt my knife but here is a pic of the Maurader I carried for a number of years The early Mauraders had a very good heat treatment which helped the 440C keep a good edge.....they were'nt made for long....I hear the new Blackjacks are not really the same company....the name was bought as I understand after the original company folded? JYD #75

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Steel Fan] #231745 07/16/08 09:53 PM
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Unsub Junk Yard Dog Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,873 Northern saskatchawan	The Rosarms are mirror finished on the flats and satin on the bevels. The mirror finish is the best I have ever seen on a production and even a lot of custom knives. If you think the .50 Mac is nice you haven't seen their new custom made sniper rifle in .338 Lapua. Check out Prairie gun works who makes it. I think Canadian soldiers used a lot of UK and US kit in WW2 so the kukuri is normal. The snipers had a lot of leewayon kit as well. We have good handguns as well. I am a big fan of the High Power but I have small hands so I would be issued a Sig which is the alternative for those who find the double stack UP to large. It would be nice if they had some helicopters though so they would not be so vulnerable at checkpoints. What does your birchbark handle feel like Shaolin. I may pick up a Fiox2 with the birch handle for myself. "if you want to be a hero you have to learn to drive stick"! Sara Conner

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Sharp] #231746 07/16/08 10:37 PM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,474 Layton, Utah Shaolin Junk Yard Dog
Shaolin Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,474 Layton, Utah	Quote Nice knife, It would be interesting to see a comparison of that with one the Busse Knives. An CT or YG would an interesting test. Even a S6 or SR Mini Uncle Mojo. JYD #55 [color:"#00FF00"]Canyons And Mountains[/color]

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Unsub] #231747 07/16/08 10:41 PM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,474 Layton, Utah Shaolin Junk Yard Dog
Shaolin Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,474 Layton, Utah	Quote The Rosarms are mirror finished on the flats and satin on the bevels. What does your birchbark handle feel like Shaolin. I may pick up a Fiox2 with the birch handle for myself. What is the Stalker, flats or bevels? I really like the handle, kinda grippy, smooth, but I have not used it yet either, soon. Looks wise it is awesome, everyone I've shown it to loves it. Never heard/seen the Fiox2 yet. JYD #55 [color:"#00FF00"]Canyons And Mountains[/color]

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Shaolin] #231748 07/17/08 05:14 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,873 Northern saskatchawan Unsub Junk Yard Dog
Unsub Junk Yard Dog Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,873 Northern saskatchawan	Their are flats and bevels on most knives. The bevels are the part that slopes and the flats are the part that is not sloped. My Companion 3 barely had any flats so it was mostly satin while the baby had flats big enough to see your whole face in the reflection. Rosarms is one of the only companies that I have seen that has a mirror polish good enough to see a reflection with no distortion. Satin is a finish like the Scrapyard LE's. Mirror finish is also the best for preventing rust because the steels pores are closed. A media blasted finish is the opposite. I love your taste in knives Steelfan. That old ATS-34 and the Benchmade are awesome. Blackjack make excellent cheaper knives now. I heard good things about Entrek. 440C is one of my favorite steels and takes a fantastic mirror polish. S30V is almost impossible to polish. You should have a better sheath made if you want to carry your ATS-34 knife although i would be to afraid to lose it. Rainwalker and On Scene Tactical are 2 of my favorite sheath guys. "if you want to be a hero you have to learn to drive stick"! Sara Conner

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Unsub] #231749 07/17/08 01:44 PM
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Steel Fan Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,379	Unsub, thanks for the compliment! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> Your taste is equally impressive! On the subject of Entrek,here are the two knives I went for as potential replacements for the Benchmade and Outfitter which due to sentimentality I was considering retiring so they would stay safe.... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> but not necessarily living in one! The first Entrek is similar to the Marauder but perhaps a better blade design. It retains the "bolo" shape so chopping is excellent but has a limited clip edge so that batoning does not damage the baton or the knife. The Destroyer and the Badger I thought I would go for a fixed small blade which I can carry inverted on my webbing on the left shoulder. The fixed blade works easier for cleaning and for food prep and does not gather muck inside the frame like a liner lock which needs to be dismantled to clean effectively. The Badger you can just sterilise in boiled water. The Destroyer took me a day to re-grind the edge to 25 degrees....the Badger was much quicker....I hear a lot about people putting convex edges on chopper knives but in the field you don't have a ready supply of wet and dry paper to put over a cut-down mouse computer board to get that "curved" appleseed effect. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/sad.gif" alt="" /> You have to keep it simple and go for a straight grind. Got to agree as well with the PGW Timberwolf .338 being a great rifle. It would be my choice if we could pick one! Edited to add that I have just noticed the B.O.L.O.S. post by Horn Dog and fully support this for a Bolo Scrapper.....I really like using this type of blade.....they are just that bit easier and a bit more versatile than a Kukri for my money's worth.... Last edited by Steel Fan; 07/17/08 04:38 PM. JYD #75

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Steel Fan] #231750 07/17/08 05:01 PM
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Steel Fan Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,379	While on the topic of Bolo's and Kukri's here is the Kukri I got to replace my long term Army issue....both the Enterek and CS Kukri have not seen much use but I have used the Army issue and Maurader for years prior to the involuntary change of hands.....still my house insurance cover turned out to be pretty good and I got these as replacements <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Cold Steel Kukri I have been re-profiling the edge on this making it finer towards the hilt for wood cutting/tool making ( pegs/V cuts etc ) and this is a bit of a labour of love. The thickness of the blade means a lot of removal is needed.... The size and weight of this is bigger than the Army issue and it's chopping ability is as good as my Gransfors Woodsman. They do a San Mai version but it is hugely more expensive....I doubt the extra money would be reflected in comparable increase in performance! That would be hard to do! JYD #75

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Steel Fan] #231751 07/17/08 07:32 PM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 3,138 Ohio macgregor Junk Yard Dog
macgregor Junk Yard Dog Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 3,138 Ohio	Quote This is quite an interesting question for me and in a word the UK troops are limited usually as to availability....affordability....and peer pressure/troop commander views on the subject. I started back in the late Falklands...a war embodying the poor kit being issued and remembered by many as the trench foot epidemic....plastic bags over issued boots....taking boots off the Argentinian soldiers and using their FAL's which had a full auto ability which the SLR did not. A handy feature in a trench clearance. If we could not get the "boots" right...imagine what the position was like on knives. Traditionally you got a Sheffield made slip joint sheep's foot pen knife with a Marlin Spike....the SLR Bayonet and if you had your wits about you you took up the chance to get a Martindale Golok....ignored by many as we were not going to the jungle....but the best bit of knife kit we had....with one exception. If you were in the know you could wangle an Army issue Kukri...I was initially with the Light Infantry whose depot in Winchester was adjacent to the Gurka's depot...I got one and by far these were the best knives you could get your hands on. Foget Fairbairn Sykes knives. Stored but never issued. The Kukri however was much better at hand to hand. When H Jones got killed leading the Para's up one side of Tumbledown mountain in a full fire fight.....the attack on the adjacent side lead by Gurka's was rumoured to be a walk in the park ( got to say I was not there on that one ). The Argie's had spoted the Gurka's coming up the hill with NV and Kukri's held in their teeth. That was enough for them....or so legend has it. I have read the sticky about not posting stuff which might be "horrific" so all I will say is the Agrie's had the right idea bugging out of there. There is nothing more effective than a Gurka in CQB mode with a Kukri.....it is like Kipling tells it in his poem - "IF" - "if you can keep your head about you when all around you poeple are losing theirs".... After the Falklands every NCO with either the Falklands on their CV or a Jungle School course or secondment to our SF's and the SF guys themselves...they all went for a Kukri. They still do. Our pay is such that our private soldiers are getting less than traffic warden's pay and putting their lives on the line. Spare cash goes on a Swiss Army knife or more recently a Leatherman. Some might splash out on a good lock knife. Very popular because once you get issued your webbing the space available is limited if you want to be able to crawl with no frontal obstruction and a lock knife easily goes in your smock. A kukri usually gets carried round the back and wedged between your belt and a hippo pad if you buy one. After the Falklands kit got a lot better and cash freed up. I remember buying Danner boots with a Gortex lining, a Gortex bivi bag from Survival Aids, a Gortex cagoule from Berghaus and having all this on my credit card for months.This stuff is all issued now. What would be incredibly popular allowing for the value for money aspect would be CGDM's or DCDM's if we could get a hold of them. Cold Steel knives and Fallkniven are much more available over here. If you work as a Sniper you need a larger belt knife for hide construction etc..so CGDF's would also be popular. These are all affordable but not available. I am home at present waiting to go back to work and for days I have been glued to the Busse Trade Forum trying to pick up a CGDM and CGDF. I really wanted a pair of these! I managed a DCDM but no CGDF....ended up spending more than I wanted to and went for a FFBM. Smaller fixed blade knives are not popular however if you have to carry a bayonet in the British Forces.....sort of seen as duplication.....hence the "tactical lock knives"...but Snipers don't have to carry these and basically can carry what they like for field preperation...the Leatherman secaturs are popular as well. I'm pretty familiar with the British kit. I own several pairs of the crappy leaking boots from the Falk. I own alot of parkas and pants, tons of M58 webbing. I even have a nylon M58, the ones that would losen up on you real quick. I hike and backpack in soldier(windows <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />) 95 pants and a ripstop sas windproof. Heck, on a cold morning you can even catch me laying around in a Mao suit even though i look like an idiot. I bet alot of British soldiers would buy a better kit if they didn't fear looking like a walt. JYD#49

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Steel Fan] #231752 07/17/08 09:29 PM
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Unsub Junk Yard Dog Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,873 Northern saskatchawan	If that is the CarbonV version of the CS Kukuri I prefer it to SanMai anyway. I reprofile almost all my knives as well to flat grinds. It takes forever but the result is worth it. I also worked with Rainwalker(who did 99.99% of the work)to make a YKCG sheath that had an attachment for the clip of tekloc on both the regular spot and the blade tip so it could be worn upside sown on my packs strap. Great minds think alike and I guess so do ours. "if you want to be a hero you have to learn to drive stick"! Sara Conner

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Unsub] #231753 07/17/08 09:52 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 14,586 Georgia Horn Dog Junk Yard Dog
Horn Dog Junk Yard Dog Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 14,586 Georgia	The new non-San Mai CS Kukris are SK-5, a good grade of cutlery steel that early SOGs were made of. The kukri is an ancient and proven design. As for the Entrek Deystroyer, mine has been a huge disappointment. I'll take any medium size Scrapper, Swamp Rat, or Busse over it any day. Horned, dangerous, and off my medication.

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Horn Dog] #231754 07/17/08 10:06 PM
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Unsub Junk Yard Dog Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,873 Northern saskatchawan	I admit it I am a total Walt. I even have body armour<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> UK to American translation of the word "Walt" is for Walter Mitty who was a dreamer from a book. It refers to people who dress up like soldiers. There are even various levels of "Walthood" with the least waltish being the musket era renactors then to the paintabll walts and finally the guy in the pub who was the second man on the balcony in the Iranian embassy siege. My walthood is getting totally out of hand. I wear a PASGT helmet on my motorbike. I worked in an army surplus store so I have lots of military gear. I wear the old Canadian issue green combat pants a LOT. They are the worlds greatest pants though. Indestructible ,comfy ,they dry in seconds and they are a muted green colour rather than camo so they are not as Walty looking. I am sad to hear about Entrek I had high hopes for them. I trust your judgement though Vic <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> Last edited by Unsub; 07/17/08 10:09 PM. "if you want to be a hero you have to learn to drive stick"! Sara Conner

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Unsub] #231755 07/17/08 10:58 PM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,379 Steel Fan Junk Yard Dog
Steel Fan Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,379	Hi Unsub,yes mine is a Carbon V model....had it a while but took a while to get round to re-profiling it. Ditto with the Enterek.....I sort of trust the Vought knife so was in no hurry to replace it. But equally I was hunting round for something similar and got put onto the Busse knives. That's how I came here.... HD what disappoints with the Enterek? I hope to have the FFBM I bought in a few days which should cover off all "performance" bases.....but would be interested in your experience with the Enterek. macgregor, our use of the word "Walt" means people who are not in the forces going around dressed like they are or pretending to be....but I know what you mean.....even if you are in the Forces ....if you dress in kit that is better than the issued kit you have to expect some mickey taking....but not much. The equipment now though is pretty good. I got to agree with you though ....forinstance lock knives are probably much more popular with us because big knives on your belt kit attract attention and usually a good ribbing. However, I am too old to care now and have been out of the regular side a while so I am not exposed to it as much either. I cover our TA side of my regiment although as recently seen in the news the TA is rotating to Iraq and Afghanistan all the time now. Our TA is like your National Guard? Here is a pic which I have which has been blacked on the faces but you can imagine that if you are on exercises dressed like a bog monster you will get a few jokes at your expense. JYD #75

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Steel Fan] #231756 07/17/08 11:11 PM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 3,138 Ohio macgregor Junk Yard Dog
macgregor Junk Yard Dog Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 3,138 Ohio	Nice, I wish I could have a L96. Geuss I'm a bit of a walt. Btw, the DPM light pants and the ripstop DPM field jacket are the best examples of military clothing I have ever seen. It is the only uniform I havent popped a buton off. My paintball team wears DPM uniforms. You are very lucky to wear it with your job. What do you do anyways. The berets are making me think BPR. JYD#49

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: macgregor] #231757 07/18/08 12:21 AM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,379 Steel Fan Junk Yard Dog
Steel Fan Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,379	Hi mac, Listen, I am as much of a gear freak as anyone....so count me in with you all. I don't want to go into my job side of things....probably best not as Ops Sec is seen as important. The photo is fine as it has been published before. It sort of came out when I went into rant mode about poor kit. It is shocking how things don't change....albeit now it is more a case of shortages rather than it not being adopted. Anyway....rant over. Got to say that I have all sorts of kit from other Armies which I take great pleasure in wearing because partly it was often given or exchanged and has a good "kudos" value. Some things like swapping T Shirts is very common and I rate my selection as one of the best! I particularly like the former Eastern block forces as they have no inhibitions on P.C. aspects for their T Shirts. When you have para-military police going out down the Bar for a few beers after work and see the T Shirts with a huge .50 cal on it saying "700. grains of instant justice"...you have to laugh at how they get away with it. Here are a couple of knives which I have had all sorts of trade offers for if I bring them away with me. To be fair I often only take them incase I ever see something I would like to trade for.....these are not easily replaced but you can get a few of them if you try. What do you all make of these....anyone able to give any info.....as a help the black one has been in storage for some time? JYD #75

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Steel Fan] #231758 07/18/08 12:26 AM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,474 Layton, Utah Shaolin Junk Yard Dog
Shaolin Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,474 Layton, Utah	Don't know anything about them, but they are cool looking, matching pair, lol JYD #55 [color:"#00FF00"]Canyons And Mountains[/color]

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Steel Fan] #231759 07/18/08 12:26 AM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 14,586 Georgia Horn Dog Junk Yard Dog
Horn Dog Junk Yard Dog Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 14,586 Georgia	Quote ...HD what disappoints with the Enterek? I hope to have the FFBM I bought in a few days which should cover off all "performance" bases.....but would be interested in your experience with the Enterek... Let's put it this way, SF, any of my Busse-made mid-sized knives cut and chop better, including the Scrapper 6. The Entrek looks like it could really chop with that forward weighted bolo blade, but it doesn't. It is a little better since I reprofiled the edge, but still not that good. Also, the handle is a bit small for a chopper. Try a Chopweiler or Camp Tramp once and you'll understand. Now the CS Kukri you have, that will chop. I have one too, with the satin finish. The FFBM is one heck of a knife. A bit heavy for a paratrooper's kit, but a great chopper. Horned, dangerous, and off my medication.

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Horn Dog] #231760 07/18/08 12:50 AM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,379 Steel Fan Junk Yard Dog
Steel Fan Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,379	Thanks for the insight HD.....there are so many Busse kin knives it is hard to keep track of them. I will have to check out the two you mention. I don't think I have seen a Camp Tramp....I have come across Chopweiler but don't have a mental picture of it yet. The weight of the FFBM should be just slightly less than the CS Kukri as far as I know from posts giving the weight of the FFBM....but agree I might find a lighter knife a benefit. I will check out the names you have given. The coffers are a bit low though having gone for a FFBM. Shoalin, the black FS is said by the guy who gets them for me to be a 1950's knife commissioned for the Navy and made by Nowells of Sheffield. The tan version was commissioned by our SF for the first Gulf War and has a bespoke finish.....made by Nowells again but I am not knowledgeable on these. I am keen to know more if anyone on here is a bit of an expert. JYD #75

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Steel Fan] #231761 07/18/08 12:57 AM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 14,586 Georgia Horn Dog Junk Yard Dog
Horn Dog Junk Yard Dog Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 14,586 Georgia	The standard FBM isn't so heavy, but the Fatty, the FFBM weighs nearly two pounds. I like the new Busse Sarsquatch, though it is more of a camp knife than a weapon. The Hell Razor looks like a combat knife. Horned, dangerous, and off my medication.

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Horn Dog] #231762 07/18/08 01:50 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,873 Northern saskatchawan Unsub Junk Yard Dog
Unsub Junk Yard Dog Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,873 Northern saskatchawan	Here are a couple of the nicest knives ever in my meagre collection. The fat one is a older Busse the classic SH-E and the skinny one is the best of all the FS dagger s the WW2 second pattern MOD model. Some people like the first pattern but the second is simpler and better balanced. The ringed handle ones are a good knife but no where near as well balanced and grippy as the first and second pattern. Here is a great photo of the FS in it's proper use. Things have gotten so bad in UK society that even discussing the historical use of the FS or even the training which is one of the most important parts of British history is not allowed on the British blades site. If you think you get ribbing for the gillie suit imagine what you would get wearing this. I have the SMLE though. Here is a great military knife. I used to have a great write up by the owner about how Swamprat made the knife special for the Canadian combat engineers but Putfile erased it.<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbdn.gif" alt="" /> "if you want to be a hero you have to learn to drive stick"! Sara Conner

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Unsub] #231763 07/18/08 02:23 AM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,379 Steel Fan Junk Yard Dog
Steel Fan Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,379	Hi Unsub and HD, LOL about the kilt....I bet that FS you have is worth a pretty penny....keep it safe... I have had the chance to absorb some of the Busse kin posts and information. I came onto this forum because of my thoughts that the SY handle material would be the best for comfort in a chopper.....that the prices were reasonable although the after market scarcity does add a premium....and that of the knives I know of ( got to admit to not having a comprehensive knowledge of them all )the one that seems to be the best for me is the Dogfather LE or CG. I now know that the LE is lighter and slightly thinner and has a better finish than the CG model and would be the best choice save that the satin finish seems on some models pictured here to be a bit of a "glare" or "shine" giveaway for military use. I would be interested to know whether you can darken this and if so how? I don't know much about the steel used for the DFLE....how does this compare to the standard steels and also to Infi? Lastly, I saw in another post that one of the moderators "Cold One" showed some drawings for a Busse Kukri....has there been any further info on this? Or on a Bolo or Kukri from SY? Any help on these points or on your views as to the DFLE v's DFCG would be most welcome. I would like to make a decision soon on whether to buy another knife....perhaps after the FFBM arrives.....then once I have done this I need to get off this computer as it is easy to see how "searching" for a knife can become a compulsive addiction. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Last edited by Steel Fan; 07/18/08 02:34 AM.

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Steel Fan] #231764 07/18/08 03:23 AM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 7,208 Madison County, Indiana Andy Wayne Junk Yard Dog
Andy Wayne Junk Yard Dog Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 7,208 Madison County, Indiana	I had an older CS Kukri w/ leather sheath, but I sold it for more Rats. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> Quote I don't think I have seen a Camp Tramp. Here's some pics of mine. JYD #4

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Steel Fan] #231765 07/18/08 03:33 AM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 3,138 Ohio macgregor Junk Yard Dog
macgregor Junk Yard Dog Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 3,138 Ohio	Quote Hi Unsub and HD, LOL about the kilt....I bet that FS you have is worth a pretty penny....keep it safe... I have had the chance to absorb some of the Busse kin posts and information. I came onto this forum because of my thoughts that the SY handle material would be the best for comfort in a chopper.....that the prices were reasonable although the after market scarcity does add a premium....and that of the knives I know of ( got to admit to not having a comprehensive knowledge of them all )the one that seems to be the best for me is the Dogfather LE or CG. I now know that the LE is lighter and slightly thinner and has a better finish than the CG model and would be the best choice save that the satin finish seems on some models pictured here to be a bit of a "glare" or "shine" giveaway for military use. I would be interested to know whether you can darken this and if so how? I don't know much about the steel used for the DFLE....how does this compare to the standard steels and also to Infi? Lastly, I saw in another post that one of the moderators "Cold One" showed some drawings for a Busse Kukri....has there been any further info on this? Or on a Bolo or Kukri from SY? Any help on these points or on your views as to the DFLE v's DFCG would be most welcome. I would like to make a decision soon on whether to buy another knife....perhaps after the FFBM arrives.....then once I have done this I need to get off this computer as it is easy to see how "searching" for a knife can become a compulsive addiction. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Hey Bro, if all else fails ask Dan and Patti to do a knife for your unit. They do special requests for the military all the time, like tan knives and the serrated MOD7. They will take care of you then sell the overruns to us. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> JYD#49

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: macgregor] #231766 07/18/08 04:53 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,873 Northern saskatchawan Unsub Junk Yard Dog
Unsub Junk Yard Dog Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,873 Northern saskatchawan	The DFLE is in my humble opinion loads better than the DFCG and the satin means any scratches can be polished out. If glare is an isse the S9 would be near perfect. It has not been made yet but it is 1 inch shorter than the DFLE but is CG coated model that is also flat ground. It should be much cheaper than a secondary market DFLE as well. My favourite Sabre ground knife is the HookGuard. It is almost as good a chopper as the DFCG because of the forward weight but is 3 inches shorter. It is cheap on the secondary market and that 3 inches less can make a big difference in getting in and out of vehicles etc. It was Scrapyards best fighter until the DFLE. The FS was a bit pricey but they are a bit cheaper in Canada and I have wanted one for a long time. Ever since I was in grade 7 and learning about WW2 and saw one in the text book. I specifically wanted a second pattern(not a first) and blued not polished because it is the REAL commando knife. The first patterns mostly went to officers and people involved in making it while the second pattern equiped the OSS and other commando units. Then everyone in the army wanted one so they made the third pattern but changed the design to make them faster and cheaper primarily switching to a proper knurled epee grip to the awful ringed grip which made the knife turn in your hand. The first and second pattern are really custom knives made by individual craftsmen. The balance is incredible. The point is a needle. They got a rep for fragility when the regular troops got a hold of them and tried to open their soup with them like KBars. These are like a scalpel. The blade is also a zero edge and very sharp especially considering who poor daggers geometry are for edges. Here is a WW1 trench modified Ross ,a modern Canadian C7 and the FS. Look how similar the C7 is but how much wider the blade is. "if you want to be a hero you have to learn to drive stick"! Sara Conner

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Unsub] #231767 07/18/08 08:04 AM
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 684 I Implume Scrapper
Implume Scrapper I Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 684	All this military memorabilia reminds me of a favorite bit of trivia. Napoleon (An army marches on its stomach) Bonaparte sponsored a contest for a new way of preserving foods in quantity. He needed a way to feed the huge modern armies of his day. This lead to the development of canning, which became widespread on both sides of the English channel around 1810. The fun part is that the can opener was not invented for another thirty years. Soldiers were expected to open their metal canisters of food with their bayonets.

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Implume] #231768 07/18/08 10:05 AM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,474 Layton, Utah Shaolin Junk Yard Dog
Shaolin Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,474 Layton, Utah	MAN! I really like that SH-e. JYD #55 [color:"#00FF00"]Canyons And Mountains[/color]

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Implume] #231769 07/18/08 11:41 AM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,379 Steel Fan Junk Yard Dog
Steel Fan Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,379	Hi Andy, The Camp Tramp looks great. It looks like an 8" blade and the handle material looks like it is the same as SY knives....so is this one a Rat or a SY? If it is a Rat, what type of material do they use? Mac,if I suggested this the first question I would be asked is "let's have a look at one"? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif" alt="" /> Unsub, you certainly seem to know your FS history. This knife also got me started on this "bug"....my first knife was a black FS made by Nowell and distributed through Whitby...must have got it 30 years ago...1977 I think.. I still have it. I have been told the Mark I and some of the II's were made by the George Wostenholme Company in Sheffield. They had the best knifesmiths and were/are the premier knife maker in the City. They made the Bowie knife for Jim Bowie's brother when he commissioned it and have been making knives long before Marples began in the United States. The history of the knife you have would be worth looking into. The marks on the base of the handle at the hilt tell you who made it and who for. They seem to be similar to a "hall mark" and depending on who made it the value can increase dramatically. Wostenholme still make knives in Sheffield....they must have been going for some time now. Implume, interesting fact about the cans. I reckon the Artillery guys must have struggled then.....LOL....one or two hungry faces there I bet not having a bayonet! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> The Cavalry boys probably had their servants do it for them rather than damage their swords! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Somethings have'nt changed much.... JYD #75

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Steel Fan] #231770 07/18/08 11:56 AM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,474 Layton, Utah Shaolin Junk Yard Dog
Shaolin Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,474 Layton, Utah	The Camp Tramp is a Swamp Rat knive, SR101 steel. I think it is a 7" blade, maybe 7.5". JYD #55 [color:"#00FF00"]Canyons And Mountains[/color]

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Shaolin] #231771 07/18/08 03:37 PM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,379 Steel Fan Junk Yard Dog
Steel Fan Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,379	Thanks Shaolin.Do they do this with a Satin finish? On some of the Rat knives I see they have a slab grips but this looks to be an all wrap around grip with a hidden tang? Is that right? JYD #75

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Steel Fan] #231772 07/18/08 03:43 PM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,474 Layton, Utah Shaolin Junk Yard Dog
Shaolin Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,474 Layton, Utah	Unfortunely am at work and do not have access to the website where I can look up some info. Off the top of my head, I've only seen pics of CG CTs, the CTs I believe, again off the top of my head, use Resprine-C like the Scrap Yard Knives. My Swamp Rat knives have micarta handles. JYD #55 [color:"#00FF00"]Canyons And Mountains[/color]

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Shaolin] #231773 07/18/08 08:16 PM
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Implume Scrapper I Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 684	The original line of Swamp Rats had coated blades and hidden tang Resperine-C handles. That includes the Battle Rat and the Camp Tramp. The tangs aren’t skinny rat-tailed things. They are designed to be wide enough that you can still use them—though not very comfortably—even if the Res-C has somehow been stripped off.

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Implume] #231774 07/18/08 11:22 PM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 3,138 Ohio macgregor Junk Yard Dog
macgregor Junk Yard Dog Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 3,138 Ohio	SF, the yard hook/hookguard is perfect for you. Its an excellent chopper/cutter/and fighter. Its the perfect size. JYD#49

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: macgregor] #231775 07/19/08 12:37 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,873 Northern saskatchawan Unsub Junk Yard Dog
Unsub Junk Yard Dog Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,873 Northern saskatchawan	The CT is SR101 which is more commonly known as 52100 a good ball bearing steel with no chromium. The impressive part of the Busse heat treat with the CT is getting an excellent hard good edge holding steel tough as well. How they do that with the M6 and larger Swamprats is differential tempering where they leave the back soft and only harden the edge. That is a very difficult proccess on a industrial scale and one that no other company is doing. Even just working with 52100 is very difficult as Spyderco ,a company who knows knife manufacture ,found out while trying some out on a limited run of (test Mules). They were going to make a bushcraft blade from it but changed to O1 after the Mule. S7 is the opposite. It was a "shock steel" which is used for jack hammer bits and the impressive thing about the Busse heat treat is getting it hard enough to hold an edge. I thought it might be to soft before I got my first S7 knives but it turned out they had good edge holding although not quite what the Rats or Infi had. S7 was at least as tough as INFI and even tougher than SR101 though which makes it perfect for big knives like the DF's and Yard Guards. It's also the reason the new Muppy is CPM154 ,because a small knife needs edge holding more than it needs toughness unless of course your HornDog <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> "if you want to be a hero you have to learn to drive stick"! Sara Conner

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Unsub] #231776 07/20/08 03:55 PM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,379 Steel Fan Junk Yard Dog
Steel Fan Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,379	Hi Unsub, Thanks for the explanation of the different steels in the Busse Kin knives. I was interested to see that Spyderco were reverting to 01 steel for a bushcraft knife. Bushcraft knives are perhaps the most up and coming of knives which you now see on belt kit over here as a personal knife and it is not hard to see why...the size and shape lend themselves very well to fighting/general use. I have tried these and can say I am impressed at the comfort and ease of sharpening on a Scandi grind .....here are mine.... This is the "original" Ray Mears/Alan Wood Bushcrafter...made from 01 Tool Steel with a great heat treat This one is by Mick Wardell and is a Damascus 01 blend which has an even better edge holding ability and is slightly smaller but both are basically 4 inch blades. The Scandi grind makes sharpening easy compared to a Convex edge on a straight grind but these are the ultimate edges for longevity and strength. I have some knives with convex edges on truly super steels and the cutting power of these is amazing. The first is a Fallknaven Idun on Cowry X steel. This is a beautifully balanced knife at 4 inches although I have not used it and keep it perfect incase I might need to sell it. I have another Cowry X knife which I do use.....both are done by Hattori in Japan...he is contracted for the Idun and does these knives himself... and this one I sanded and modified the stag handle for a comfortable grip. Here it is [ Both knives have hidden tangs but both are as you would expect very sturdy. Japan seems to be the home for convex edges and knives which eptimise the "poetry of steel". Here are my best two knives made by a custom maker Mr Itou...they have convex edges and the steel is R2 Damascus. All these blades are hand forged and ground by masters who have a lifetime of skill under their belts. I thought the Hattori knives would be unbeatable until I saw this man's work and the edge holding is "crazy sharp". This is a 5 inch drop point done in R2 Steel and Big Horn Sheep handles,red liner and silver nickel guard with a tapered tang for balance and shock strength. It has a bigger brother with exactly the same specifications but this is a 6.5inch SOG Bowie style blade and is perhaps my favouite knife. This last knife if it were done with green micarta handles and no silver bolsters or guard would make for one hell of a webbing knife.....but some things are often too nice to rough up.....although I am a firm beleiver in using knives so that the pleasure of the workmanship and steel choice and edge geometry can be appreciated. The Hattori stag handle which I do use has made me realise just why these knives are conceived. They do really give you better performance. Got to go now and hope you enjoy the pics. JYD #75

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Steel Fan] #231777 07/20/08 05:32 PM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 7,208 Madison County, Indiana Andy Wayne Junk Yard Dog
Andy Wayne Junk Yard Dog Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 7,208 Madison County, Indiana	Beautiful knives SF. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> JYD #4

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Steel Fan] #231778 07/20/08 07:51 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 14,586 Georgia Horn Dog Junk Yard Dog
Horn Dog Junk Yard Dog Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 14,586 Georgia	SF, those are all beautiful knives. Are those all yours? It seems that soldier's pay has much improved since I wore the OD green! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> I can remember how angry some of my family members were with me for buying a Gerber Mark II for $40. That was the equivalent of about $120 in today's funny money. Horned, dangerous, and off my medication.

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Horn Dog] #231779 07/20/08 08:15 PM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,379 Steel Fan Junk Yard Dog
Steel Fan Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,379	Hi HD, Yes they are mine but acquired over a long time. Some of the expensive ones were bought after being away and you can save a fair bit because there is little to spend anything on when food and board such as it is ....is thrown in. Money was tight when I first started...since I came out of it full time you have your normal job, and extra wages from the T.A.( like your Nat Guard ) commitment and if you go away they cover your salary from your job if that is higher than your Army salary. Two jobs keeps you busy, divorced, poor but recovering.....all in that order! JYD #75

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Steel Fan] #231780 07/20/08 09:13 PM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,474 Layton, Utah Shaolin Junk Yard Dog
Shaolin Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,474 Layton, Utah	Way to go Steel Fan, glad you found the money to buy what you wanted/enjoyed at the time. I did the same when I was in the Air Force 75-79, lol JYD #55 [color:"#00FF00"]Canyons And Mountains[/color]

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Shaolin] #231781 07/20/08 09:46 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,873 Northern saskatchawan Unsub Junk Yard Dog
Unsub Junk Yard Dog Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,873 Northern saskatchawan	Those are some incredible knives! I love Hattori but it is really hard to find them here in Canada. I bet you will like this one? Sadly I only have a photo. Most people could have nice knives or a nice car if that was what they chose to spend their money and time on. I don't make much cash but I keep my expenses low and spend about half if not more of my discretionary funds on knives. I also try to be smart about it. I love user Busse's. I saw a nice user FBM go for 325$ on BF. Ergo handled knives are still cheap(relativly anyway). More Hattori Pron This ebony handled fighter had me making long distance phomne calls to Japan looking for one. Here is another SOG style one but more traditional. I love blued knives. It seems like Hattori produce more knives for other companies than they do for their own line. Interesting sheath on that last bowie. That Woodlore is an excellent knife as well. It is one of those knives you need for a collection because it started the whole trend of bushcraft knives. Another knife you would need for a serious bushcraft collection (whicjh I also don't have) is the Skookum. Skookum country is just over a bit from me in Alberta and is exactly the same kind of wilderness. The knife was designed to be a custom version of the Woodlore designed by Mors Kochanski for that type of terrain. Mors has an excellent quote as to what a bush knife should be. I will try to find it. You can see that the knife has a plate welded to the back of the handle so it can be hammered on or with. "if you want to be a hero you have to learn to drive stick"! Sara Conner

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Unsub] #231782 07/21/08 01:08 AM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,379 Steel Fan Junk Yard Dog
Steel Fan Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,379	Hi Shaolin, Yes, if you take it steady you can build up some nice knives over the years. I have been interested since I was a teenager so it works out at about one a year from there on in. Unsub, If you want to find where to get the Japanese I have Google for a company called Japanese Knives Direct....said it this way incase posting connections is not allowed....this is ran really well and delivers internationally. The US has some serious "poets of steel" though.....this is a knife made by a US custom knife maker Dusty Moulton which features a Devin Thomas damascus blade...it is 3 3/4 inches long and is a super steel in it's own right with a marvellous heat treatment. I have used this on Red Deer Hind culls in Scotland to gralloch 9 deer in a day and the edge was still incredibly sharp at the end when I came to touch the edge up. It split Atlas joints and knee joints and skinned four of the carcasses later in the week before needing a proper re-sharpening. This is my favourite hunting knife and never fails to impress me with what it can do. It is light and small....but it is a giant of a performer. Another favourite...... JYD #75

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Steel Fan] #231783 07/21/08 01:20 AM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,474 Layton, Utah Shaolin Junk Yard Dog
Shaolin Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,474 Layton, Utah	WOW! Another cool looking knive, thanks for sharing those pics with us. JYD #55 [color:"#00FF00"]Canyons And Mountains[/color]

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Shaolin] #231784 07/23/08 05:12 PM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 376 Yoknapatawpha County CloaknDagger Mongrel
CloaknDagger Mongrel Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 376 Yoknapatawpha County	hahaha this has turned into a scandi thread lol it started as US and UK combat knives Have you hugged your camp knife today?

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Steel Fan] #231785 07/23/08 05:49 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,297 Middle Tennessee Rainwalker Junk Yard Dog
Rainwalker Junk Yard Dog Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,297 Middle Tennessee	Quote Hi Shaolin, Yes, if you take it steady you can build up some nice knives over the years. I have been interested since I was a teenager so it works out at about one a year from there on in. Unsub, If you want to find where to get the Japanese I have Google for a company called Japanese Knives Direct....said it this way incase posting connections is not allowed....this is ran really well and delivers internationally. The US has some serious "poets of steel" though.....this is a knife made by a US custom knife maker Dusty Moulton which features a Devin Thomas damascus blade...it is 3 3/4 inches long and is a super steel in it's own right with a marvellous heat treatment. I have used this on Red Deer Hind culls in Scotland to gralloch 9 deer in a day and the edge was still incredibly sharp at the end when I came to touch the edge up. It split Atlas joints and knee joints and skinned four of the carcasses later in the week before needing a proper re-sharpening. This is my favourite hunting knife and never fails to impress me with what it can do. It is light and small....but it is a giant of a performer. Another favourite...... Awesome customs SF!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> I love the engraving on this one!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> Engraving is something that I always thought would be cool to do, never had the time or resources for it though... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> Guess I'll just stick to tooling leather instead. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> JYD#35 Dog Walkin in the Rain

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Rainwalker] #231786 08/12/08 01:04 AM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 14,586 Georgia Horn Dog Junk Yard Dog
Horn Dog Junk Yard Dog Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 14,586 Georgia	Here's a nifty little EDC sticker, if you happen to be a commando. Apparently, these were made for US Marines during WWII, and Camillus found some specs, so they made some more. Then they went out of business. Looks a lot like the British models. It should carry well in a better sheath. One of those with a stud that you tuck in your belt or waistband. What a nasty little surprise for an unsuspecting mugger! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Horned, dangerous, and off my medication.

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Horn Dog] #231787 08/12/08 01:52 AM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,297 Middle Tennessee Rainwalker Junk Yard Dog
Rainwalker Junk Yard Dog Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,297 Middle Tennessee	That is one wicked looking sticker. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> I like it! JYD#35 Dog Walkin in the Rain

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Rainwalker] #231788 08/12/08 03:02 AM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 3,603 The Last Best Place Kraz Junk Yard Dog
Kraz Junk Yard Dog Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 3,603 The Last Best Place	What a gorgeous collection of knives Steel Fan! Thanks for sharing!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> I've bought from the trading company you mentioned and got a couple of great knives at very reasonable prices...and all were very, very sharp. F5 like you mean it! JYD #15

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Rainwalker] #231789 08/12/08 03:03 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,873 Northern saskatchawan Unsub Junk Yard Dog
Unsub Junk Yard Dog Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,873 Northern saskatchawan	Wow great to see this thread again especially today. I made a deal for a Skookum bush tool in A2 with natural micarta and got a Caly3ZDP and a few Rosarms today. The real kicker is that Camillus dagger. I have a real soft spot for the FS dagger and a great fellow dog just sent me a beautiful version. I am even familiar with the original Camillus dagger. It was exactly like a FS except made in the US by mostly German immigrant cutlery makers on the east coast. The Camillus dagger also had a spatula shaped handle made in a converted spatula factory. The sheath was quite well made but the dagger was poor quality(sabotage is suspected) and issued to grunts with no training or explanation as to it's use. They used the needle sharp assassins weapon like a K-BAR and quickly broke it. The handle on the new camillus model is the best kind the knurled rather than the ringed because the ringed ones twist in the hand. I can't wait to see how they turned out with proper heat treat and a nice leather sheath. Thanks vic "if you want to be a hero you have to learn to drive stick"! Sara Conner

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Unsub] #231790 08/12/08 03:40 AM
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Implume Scrapper I Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 684	The original version of the Fairbairn-Sykes knife had a ricasso to let the user wrap his index finger around the quillon for a secure grip. Much like the ricasso on that Camillus version you’re showing, Horn Dog. The feature was swiftly dropped during WWII for the sake of faster wartime production. I’m willing to assume that Fairbairn knew what he was about, back in Shanghai. Anyone who has survived hundreds of violent street fights, of the sort that left many policemen dead, knows more about real world combat than I do. I pay attention when he talks about how to design and use a knife. I always thought it a shame that the ricasso was dropped from the S-F dagger.

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Implume] #231791 08/12/08 10:48 AM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 14,586 Georgia Horn Dog Junk Yard Dog
Horn Dog Junk Yard Dog Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 14,586 Georgia	The Camillus caught my eye while I was searching for something else at BQM. Lots of soldiers buy gear from BQM, so I wouldn't be surprised to see a few of these daggers show up on active duty. Horned, dangerous, and off my medication.

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Implume] #231792 08/12/08 04:46 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,873 Northern saskatchawan Unsub Junk Yard Dog
Unsub Junk Yard Dog Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,873 Northern saskatchawan	I am not a big fan of the Ricasso because I don't use it. I have a nice second pattern which does not have the ricasso but does have the nice knurled grips and I think it is the best one BUT I did not have a first pattern to compare it to(at least not yet). The Camillus should be a nice substitute. There is a real push to revise the history of the FS dagger and make it nothing more than a morale booster by the PC contingent in the UK. British Blades will not even let you discuss the use of the dagger or it's history for fear of a crack down of some sort. Is there a place for the FS in a modern army? I think so but it is quite limited. In many cases it has been replaced by the suppressed pistol. However a FS is a much much lighter and cheaper and less complex piece of equipment. I could see one or 2 guys in a unit having a FS type dagger for when they want to put off making noise until the last minute. Being on the SWAT team in Shanghai was about as good as it gets for hand to hand experience although I grew up as the only white kid on an Indian reserve which was not bad either. My parents were social workers <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banghead.gif" alt="" /> I have mentioned it before but the perfect book to go with that dagger is Kill or get killed by col Applegate who designed the Camillus knife based on the FS. You can download it free from Stevespages. One of my favourite things about the FS daggers is they are completely useless for anything but murder. It is very unPC and is actually quite rare. "if you want to be a hero you have to learn to drive stick"! Sara Conner

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Unsub] #231793 08/12/08 05:44 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,943 Spring, TX KnifeGuy Junk Yard Dog
KnifeGuy Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,943 Spring, TX	Quote More Hattori Pron This ebony handled fighter had me making long distance phomne calls to Japan looking for one. Unsub, If you like that Hattori, look into Junglee knives. Some of the newer ones are made with cheaper steel, but the older ones made with MVS-8 are pretty good. I ground the top guard of the Baby Hattori Fighter and put a little bit of an index finger recess into it. They are both quite nice and some deals can be had on some older Junglee stuff on ebay. The large Hattori fighter is pretty awesome and impressive. But, the Baby Hattori fighter balances and feels better in the hand IMO. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> . JYD #39 I prefer "SATIN" blades!!!

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: KnifeGuy] #231794 08/12/08 08:06 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,873 Northern saskatchawan Unsub Junk Yard Dog
Unsub Junk Yard Dog Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,873 Northern saskatchawan	I like the baby one but I do think the ebony hattori is way better looking. There are not exactly "deals" but they are between Scrapyard and Busse prices. It certainly looks like a fighter though. The serrations on the Jungalee looks a LOT like spyder edge serrations and Spyderco makes a lot of knives in SEKI city where I am pretty sure Hattori is located and makes knives for many other companies including Fallkniven. I have a hunch Hattori makes knives for Spyderco. To get us kind of back on topic what knives ,one fixed and one folding would you buy for a soldier deploying to Iraq or Afghanistan? I can't even answer that without some thought. "if you want to be a hero you have to learn to drive stick"! Sara Conner

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Unsub] #231795 08/14/08 02:34 AM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 14,586 Georgia Horn Dog Junk Yard Dog
Horn Dog Junk Yard Dog Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 14,586 Georgia	I have the Junglee Waterloo, a wicked little double-edged dagger. I have been impressed with the Junglees. Horned, dangerous, and off my medication.

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Horn Dog] #231796 08/14/08 09:03 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,873 Northern saskatchawan Unsub Junk Yard Dog
Unsub Junk Yard Dog Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,873 Northern saskatchawan	You guys are really bad influences on me <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> I am really liking the look of the baby fighter. "if you want to be a hero you have to learn to drive stick"! Sara Conner

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Unsub] #231797 08/14/08 01:05 PM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,379 Steel Fan Junk Yard Dog
Steel Fan Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,379	Getting back on topic and answering Unsub's question.... the folder would be for me a lockable Leatherman like the Wave and from it's keyring attachment I would add the small key chain SAK as the scissors/tweezers and toothpick are good for personal admin....you can use the SAK like a knotted lanyard to draw the Leatherman from the pouch. That way you have one folder system that covers everything... although I personally find the magnifying glass very useful on the larger SAK and you don't get these on a Leatherman... but you can make do with the same feature on a Sunto type compass but the clarity is not as good. Alternatively just carry a seperate jewellers loop. The fixed blade is the hard part.....not just the knife but thinking through the type of grind on the blade and the ability to sharpen it. For ease of sharpening and paricularly if Iwere as Unsub states....buying something for someone else.... as opposed to making your own mind up knowing your sharpening skill levels/preferences... I would say for me I am very much attracted to the ease and simplicity of a scandi grind bushcraft knife. The bevel makes it very easy to field sharpen to a razor edge all the time....using simple kit. If taking a Scandi grind I would take a mixed double sided 1000/6000 japanese water stone cut down to half length and put it in a plastic tea caddy box which you can fill up with water to enable the stone to be soaked before use. It easily stores in a belt kit pouch. Steel choice would have to be 01 tool steel. I have two of these type knives and the 01 Woodlore Bushcrafter sharpens far quicker and easier than the Wardell Damascus steel. The later may hold an edge longer but compared to how long it takes to sharpen... but the Woodlore is no slouch in this department either. The Woodlore sharpens like my Skinny Ash 1 which in Infi is also easy to sharpen and also takes a hell of an edge. This nicely brings me to my other choice. I like the Skinny Ash 1 as it is just that bit more substantial for chopping and having convexed the blade and edge it is way more of a performer than the Woodlore. You would need to use a batoning/chopping technique a/la Bear Gryllis to chop through a tree with the Woodlore. The Ash could be used by itself. The issue with the Ash is the complex kit needed to field sharpen the edge. My choice would be to take a Spyderco sharpmaster with the ceramic rods and glue to the base of the plastic box a cut out section of mouse mat and fold and carry in the box on top of the ceramic rods some wet and dry grit paper. The size is cut so that when applying the paper to the base there is sufficient overlap at the sides to enable the lid of the sharpmaker to be closed thus trapping the paper so it can be used like a sanding block. I have modified mine like this and it works well. You can then restore a convex grind without any issues so long as you have the time and skill base to do so.....and so long as you don't run out of paper. If you do you will just have to use the ceramic rods in the Sharpmaker to touch up the edge and accept that it will be going back to a straight grind secondary bevel with the convex main grind on the sides. This would still be a very powerful cutting combination. The benefit of the ease of sharpening Infi steel over the other Busse-kin steels makes this my choice amongst the "family". Infi performs so well in all the categories which you asses a steel choice ..... that it would be my choice of steel if they did a Scandi grind knife for someone more of a novice to knife sharpening. The only alternative to a Skinny Ash is for me another Busse....probably a bit bigger....but also a lot heavier .....and whilst you gain as a chopper you lose out in the carving/delicate task arena. Hence if there was only "one" fixed blade it would be the Skinny Ash. Two fixed blades and I would have a larger knife on my Bergan or on a Tac Vest. A knife I would like to see made is a Skinny FSH 8 or 9 inch blade with a LE finish in convex grind like the NMFFBM.. basically just a little longer than the present Skinny Ash with a convex grind instead of saber grind.... If Busse have ever done one can someone let me know? I am not a fully conversant with all the models? This would be the first knife I asked the custom shop to do if it was not available and I had the time to wait for it before deploying. My second knife would be a Scandi Bushcrafter. Anyone else interested in these two concept knives ? Maybe we could get a group buy project price? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> JYD #75

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Steel Fan] #231798 08/14/08 01:19 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 14,586 Georgia Horn Dog Junk Yard Dog
Horn Dog Junk Yard Dog Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 14,586 Georgia	I just love my new convexed Skinny ASH-1, but as a user, those Scrapper 6s are hard to beat. At a third the price, they can do anything the Skinny can do and carry just as well. The ASH1s are prettier, though. Horned, dangerous, and off my medication.

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Horn Dog] #231799 08/14/08 09:33 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,873 Northern saskatchawan Unsub Junk Yard Dog
Unsub Junk Yard Dog Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,873 Northern saskatchawan	INFI is one of the nicest steels to polish and sharpen for sure. I think I actually have the knife you asked for. The old SH-E is exactly what you described. It is an 8 inch long blade that is not as wide as the ASH. It is not quite as thin as a skinny but the full flat grind version I have is not bad at all. It even has a convex edge although only on one side. The other side is totally flat for an asymmetrical grind. Might as well post a pretty one. Here is a nice new Bushcrafter that would also be a good choice. It will also be O1. I got bit by the spyderco bug (well spider actually)bad recently. I am having a heck of a time with my own question. Right now I would say my Caly3 and my Rosarms bayonet. Roo mentioned it looks like the Ames Rifleman knife and I thought that was brilliant. I had this feeling like it reminded me of something and he nailed it with the riflemans knife. "if you want to be a hero you have to learn to drive stick"! Sara Conner

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Unsub] #231800 08/15/08 12:25 PM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,293 Canada tyger75 Junk Yard Dog
tyger75 Junk Yard Dog Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,293 Canada	Oh my god, there are some seriously nice blade pics here! Steel Fan, sweet looking collection you got there! JYD#70 Warning! There are more than just dogs in this yard!

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: tyger75] #231801 08/15/08 12:30 PM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,379 Steel Fan Junk Yard Dog
Steel Fan Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,379	Thank you kindly! I get a lot of pleasure from it ....interspersed with guilt at the cost.....but definately I need to find more time to enjoy them! JYD #75

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Steel Fan] #231802 04/16/09 01:16 PM
Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 13,668 Oklahoma sumoj275 Junk Yard Dog
sumoj275 Junk Yard Dog Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 13,668 Oklahoma	Great thread that needs to be brought back up for the new guys. Men you can't trust, women you can't trust, beasts you can't trust, but Bussekin steel you can trust

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: sumoj275] #231803 04/16/09 03:45 PM
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KnifeGuy Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,943 Spring, TX	This was/is a great thread. I like the generic discussions just hashing about GREAT knives and sharing lots of pics. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> SF posted some awesome knives - obviously a connoisseur of some of the "Finer" blades - Gorgeous art blades I wish I could afford and justify. I used to have about 20-25 or so customs, but I had to sell most of my nice ones as finances got tougher... I miss a bunch of them. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> I still have about 6-7 simple Steve Voorhis knives which are great designs and pretty well made. Sort of a good value for customs, so easier for me to hold on to. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> ... and a couple others. Vic obviously collects and knows a lot more historical military blades - also interesting and fun to discuss and learn about. ..... Sadly, this thread also shows me some of the guys I haven't seen around in a long time that were pretty regular and frequent posters at one time. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> .... Unsub, Rooikat, Dice, Stans and a bunch of the yougsters???? . JYD #39 I prefer "SATIN" blades!!!

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: KnifeGuy] #231804 04/16/09 05:00 PM
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Steel Fan Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,379	Yes it would be nice to see some of the old names pay a visit back here....I last saw Unsub in the W&SS forum on B/F's...I hope they are all OK.... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crossfingers.gif" alt="" /> Maybe we might see some back here when the S5 is released.... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> It is interesting reading some of my old posts and then thinking that the releases since then such as the NMSFNO actually fit the bill of what I hoped to see... JYD #75

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Steel Fan] #231805 04/16/09 05:26 PM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 46,691 S.W. Missouri Private Klink Junk Yard Dog
Private Klink Junk Yard Dog Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 46,691 S.W. Missouri	+1 Junk Yard Dog #1 Moderator/Leader of the Pack Good night Mrs. B, wherever you are! Long Live the Brotherhood of the Yard!

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Private Klink] #231806 04/16/09 05:29 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 14,586 Georgia Horn Dog Junk Yard Dog
Horn Dog Junk Yard Dog Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 14,586 Georgia	Unsub is into historical knives nowadays. He had a post recently on the Bark River forum. But he could drop in and hang out with the old rubber handled knife crowd now and then. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Horned, dangerous, and off my medication.

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Horn Dog] #231807 04/16/09 05:40 PM
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Private Klink Junk Yard Dog Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 46,691 S.W. Missouri	Yes, it would be nice if some of the missing "old-timers" would visit now and then! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" /> Junk Yard Dog #1 Moderator/Leader of the Pack Good night Mrs. B, wherever you are! Long Live the Brotherhood of the Yard!

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Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin #231809 04/16/09 06:01 PM
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ThePitbullofLove Junk Yard Dog Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,407 NC	Did someone say Fairbairn-Sykes? One of my first knives! Dad had this one since the mid to late 50's, when they were $2 items from the back of a magazine.... It's drawn blood too...I used it as a Boy Scout to slit a pig's throat before we BBQ'd it [color:"red"]Hey man! There's a beverage involved here... JYD#92[/color]

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin #231810 04/16/09 06:51 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 14,586 Georgia Horn Dog Junk Yard Dog
Horn Dog Junk Yard Dog Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 14,586 Georgia	Quote Yep. But people come and go and interests change. So it's to be expected, I suppose. Even if I never bought another knife, I'd at least visit here. Sure, it's Scrap Yard knives that brought us here, but this forum is a lot more than just the knives. You can't say that about most knife forums. There are some fine folks here who don't mind helping each other out. Now, back on topic, I ended up getting one of those Camillus daggers. But if I were to pick a combat knife, for a 61 year old fat man, it would be the DFLE! Gimme some reach! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Horned, dangerous, and off my medication.

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Horn Dog] #231811 04/16/09 06:57 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,141 Lone Star State imaginefj Junk Yard Dog
imaginefj Junk Yard Dog Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,141 Lone Star State	[quoteEven if I never bought another knife, I'd at least visit here. Sure, it's Scrap Yard knives that brought us here, but this forum is a lot more than just the knives. You can't say that about most knife forums. There are some fine folks here who don't mind helping each other out. [/quote] For sure! Join the NRA JYD #69 If a 6 turned out to be 9 Join the NRA

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: imaginefj] #231812 04/17/09 01:49 AM
Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 13,668 Oklahoma sumoj275 Junk Yard Dog
sumoj275 Junk Yard Dog Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 13,668 Oklahoma	I love learning from all people, and the Yard has a lot of good people to learn from. I do know that people's interests change--mine has. I still love guns, probably can tell that by my posts, but I have found a new love of steel. I have always loves blades, but lately it is even more addictive. It is all your fault LOL. Serious, between the blades, guns, camping, hiking and gear what else can we add--I know, zombie killing tactics! Men you can't trust, women you can't trust, beasts you can't trust, but Bussekin steel you can trust

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: sumoj275] #231813 04/17/09 03:11 AM
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Gambit Junk Yard Dog Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,729 Texas	+1 JYD #73 Chance favors the prepared mind.

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: sumoj275] #231814 04/19/09 10:07 AM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 46,691 S.W. Missouri Private Klink Junk Yard Dog
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