I would like to add that there are some forum members on here that will actually offer you some models that they have duplicates of at cost which I find extremely kind and highly unusual amongst the knife world....once again that shows what a great bunch gather on the Yard !!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />