It is. Especially on my low retirement income! I would have to call that point test "abuse", but it is something one might actually do in a suvival situation....if he was stupid. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif" alt="" /> I haven't messed up a knife that bad since I bent the Condor Inca Knife blade like a pretzel. The knife still works, but it has a wave or two in it.