Thanks KG- I will look all of this over MANY times and adjust my thinking.I appreciate you taking the time to put up all this information and links.I must say that this shapening is as addictive as the collecting and other endeavors. I can say for sure that I am having a great time thanks to all the folks like you that share and make this an enjoyable place to be <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />